Canceling Lenz's Law - Methods

[aidrenegade]

Wow, such a long thread! I'd gone cross eyed by page 7 of replies. Apologies if my answer is in the replies I skipped. Has anyone tried / made a iron closed loop core with multi wound coils? I'm thinking / picturing a solid iron / ferrous ring as a core with no join, multi wound with magnet wire. I'll try to explain myself.....

Say you wanted 10 seperate windings on the iron ring, 360 degrees divided by 10 equals 36 degrees. so at an angle of every 36 degrees around the ring you have  a starting point for each winding. You will need 10 rolls of magnet wire to follow thorough this idea, one for each winding. Winding clockwise or anti clockwise, wind from starting point to next next starting point and then carry on winding over the next first winding etc, etc, etc over as many layers of windings as required to build up  enough  winds per coil.

Um... worried I'm not explaining what I'm thinking to well, possibly it would look simular to this link http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/rcoil.htm but using 10 windings not just 2 around an iron loop. Any thoughts on this? Has it been tried already? Does this idea still have lenz drag problems with the windings inter-wound?

[kEhYo77]

My idea of a lenz-free generator, inspired by this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilzmRnfYFI
Magnets on both sides of the E core induce current in the coil but the counter EMF is trapped inside the core - No more drag!

Here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySId1F9YKvM is a similar concept with an alternate route for the CEMF inside the core.

Is anyone willing to test it?

[gyulasun]

Hi kEhYo77,

You nicely solved the cogging problem what attract forces cause when rotor magnets and stator cores have equal numbers.

The principle seems good to me: the counter flux from the load current is supposed to remain inside the core provided there is still enough permeability left for the cores during induction, so that core saturation does not yet start.

You may have noticed Butch's setup here: http://www.overunity.com/14425/lafonte-pseudo-solid-generator-rotary-linear-reciprocating-ultra-simple/msg393691/#msg393691   where he shows a similar principle i.e. the counter flux is also hoped to remain in the core but his setup has a linear reciprocating rotor magnet movement.  There is a good animation for his setup by member Blainiac here http://i60.tinypic.com/256ai5f.gif 
And Butch also arrived at a rotary version here:
http://www.overunity.com/14425/lafonte-pseudo-solid-generator-rotary-linear-reciprocating-ultra-simple/msg394277/#msg394277

I hope someone will be able to replicate any of the setups, this is an interesting principle.

Thanks,  Gyula

[yssuraxu_697]

Small but important correction on the updated pic. Cosequently this arrangement will have very small output, all covered by Lenz. Picture this arrangement in your head as hydraulic system with turbine in the middle leg of the core and magnets as flow source/sink. Immediately it becomes apparent that water/flux wont like going thru middle leg very much...

[kEhYo77]

Winding HV bifi coil should delay CEMF above certain frequency.
Gotta try it using off the shelf transformers...