Joule Thief

[Artic_Knight]

Artic_Knight:

Thanks for the reply.  I like your analogy and, I believe I even understand.  One thing that is slightly different, which is what Dr. Stiffler was responding to, is that alone, the EB puts out 1.95 volts and now the supercap has close to 2.5 volts on it.  He says this can't happen.  Maybe the difference is that my meter in volt mode does not load the circuit.  We have read in the past that the EB can rise to the challenge when you place a load on it, to a point of course.  So if the EB sees the supercap as a load, which it is, maybe it is pulling more out of it than my no load meter will? (This is just a guess)

Yes, everything is hooked up correctly polarity wise.  There is a stern warning on the caps that if the polarity is not correct, it can explode with great force and cause damage or injury.  So, I was very careful in this.

Gadget is correct in that my meter can not handle the amp level and therefore the minus sign in that reading is probably just an anomaly that happened as I was about to fry the meter by reading it like that.

Thanks for your explanation and analogy.  These supercaps are really cool.

Bill

LOL at the pic of the car!! you guys are great :-p

bill as a couple posters have noted you can see 1.9v but it is at 2.4mhz and has a sinwave form so your not seeing all of the spike perhaps a scope shot of a EB is in order?

[altrez]

@Altrez,
I got your PM ok. Ta.

Ok cool I have noticed something today. It is very odd and I must send you the coil notes. My LLA1 is also charging the source battery however it cant really charge it because its got a constant draw so it is basically hovering at the same mVs. It must be in the toroid winding what else  could explain it?

-Altrez

[altrez]

@all

Today I got a copy of Free Energy Generation 20 Bedini-Bearden years and I must say its a great book. Off topic I know just wanted to post that bit of info

-Altrez

[jeanna]

So, Altrez,

Have you ever put these multiple pickups together in a parallel connection to see what the scope says?

I sure would like to know before you achieve full battery charging what the scope tells you that each coil has for frequency and volts and if you put them together in series- I think that is the one you did?- and in parallel - again frequency and volts.

I realize it means taking some connections apart, but I sure would like to know.

thanks,

jeanna

[TheNOP]

I have quoted a reply I received from Dr. Stiffler about my new supercap on Energetic Forum:

"Bill who told you that a SuperCap would continue to accept charge if the voltage across it remained the same?  Here are some basic facts that apply to all caps (SuperCaps included);  Q = CV C = Q/V V = Q/C  V is the voltage on the cap. C if the capacity in Farads and Q is the charge or Coulombs.  The energy in the cap can be found with a basic formula J = 1/2(CV^2) where J is Joules or WattSeconds. If you want WattHours then WHr = J/3600  So if yo have a cap of 650F @ 2.7V you get J=1/2(650*(2.7^2)) = 2.369E3 or 2,369 WattSeconds. Divide this by 3600 and 2369/3600= 6.581E-1 Watt Hours or 0.6581 = 658milliwatt hours.  Yes if you direct short this cap through the meter it should burn something up, but the fuse will not necessarily respond as the initial pulse is very short.  This is not much energy as the power is determined over time so you must use V*I*T.  The stored energy in a cap can also be found by W=CV^2/2 which I showed above.  Note that one Joule or WattSecond is only 2.78E-7 KwHr.  Hope this helps."

He says that there is not much energy stored in my cap at all.  I don't know enough to argue with himbut look at what I was able to do with just two 10 farad caps and now I won't be able to do much with 650?  This makes no sense to me at all.  He is saying I will only have milliwatts for output and again, I find this very hard to believe.
As for the part about someone telling me the cap will continue to charge above my input voltage, well, I have seen that with my own eyes and so no one had to tell me anything.  1.95 vdc input from EB and now over 2.4 vdc on the supercap and climbing.  Something or someone is not correct here.

Bill

even at low volts, at high amps, there are risks of injuries.
ex: burns and also flashes that can damage your eyes

a cap, once full, can't accept more energy.
your super cap will stop storing energy at ~2.7volts provided your voltage source can go that high.


lol
now i know why i keept blowing transistors.
i forgotted that 1 farad  = 1 coulomb/ 1 volts  = 1 amp/second.
the thing is that i posted about this not long ago in an other tread, about units conversion.
but i did not made the relation with my blown out transistors at that time.

thanks, you and mr. Stiffler