Joule Thief

[stprue]

lol This is a understatement !

you still have 2 cross , they only cross on the inside not on the side , one the side and out side thy look parallel .

And they don't cross on the first row.

Well Mk there must be something really special about your design  even when you make it very wrong you can easily light 31 superbright led's 25,000mcd

[jeanna]

Part of your problem stprue is that when the cross is not hidden on the inside you can see it better.

All that you have going on at the top there is what normally happens on the inside, where you can't see it.
I only see one real cross, but it looks like 2 crosses because of how you are viewing it.
If you do not allow it to cross on the outside you will be forcing it to cross on the inside. then make sure the channel between wires is right, then don't stop until the next turn.

jeanna

edit add
wow look at those lights. very bright and proof!
waydago!!!

[Mk1]

@stprue

There i got a old picture, i hope this helps.

Mark

Nice led display ,it dose look bright !

[stprue]

Stprue,
when I do it, I just check when the wire comes out from underneath. I check where it went into the center and I skip one wire and go into the next space all the way until it goes into the center.
Then I pull it through, the look at where it went in and skip one wire then put my wire one slot next and go up again. then it goes into the center again and when it comes out I look at where it went into the center and skip the next wire and continue.
I said the same thing a few ways just now.

I think you are trying to see it. You can't. Your fingers and the shadows are in the way. All you can see is where it last was before it disappeared and where it comes out. When it comes out you must place it in between the next wires.

And besides:
You have made it exactly backwards. I don't even know if it matters. You have made it with one cross on the outside and straight on the inside. Just reverse it or don't worry about it.

It may not matter. If it is the only thing and you aren't getting results then try, but you lit 2 fluorotubes the other day! What are you wanting to do run the air conditioner? 

maybe one of these descriptions will help.

jeanna

Yes...It all makes sense now...hehe..you see I'm lefty and I do everything backwards

What about this?

[stprue]

To me this looks like I'm crossing over the top of one and the bottom of the other all in one turn/wind but this seems to be the only way to not cross over twice!  MK is this it?


Now that I think about it...it does look similar to the way Hazens backwinds! Not quite but similar!