Joule Thief

[jeanna]

batteries can reverse polarity if they are over charged

hmm yes, but this was anything but overcharged. It had 1.01v in my first test and then after 3 minutes, it had
.995v
then I looked at it through the resistor and the amps draw was
-22.7mA
then I put it back onto the load of lights then after 3 minutes read the battery voltage again.
It was .971v and the amps draw was
20.9mA

and so on...

Later, when the battery could no longer show a light when going through the resistor I checked a few last places.

voltage of battery terminals running 10 leds in series.
0.557v
same battery terminals but now with the leds and through the 10 ohm resistor
0.7v ( => higher through the resistor!)
across the 10 ohm resistor
- .156v= -15.6mA (=> negative value!)

Too bad I put the battery into the charger. That is all the tests I did.

no caps
no diodes

...
you cannot think about these two as the same they are separate this is the point tesla tried to make by his demonstrations the more you add to the circuits the more outside influence reacts with the internal circuit thus his obsession with volume.

Martin

I am afraid I cannot understand most of your post.
I have a question about this part..
What is he adding?

thus his obsession with volume.

volume of what? voltage?

thank you,

jeanna

[nueview]

oh boy this could take allot to explain

ok here goes all matter is composed of a voltage emf component and a mmf component these two components can be stressed to give a dipole this stress can allow for energy to be lost or accumulated through electrophorus depending on wether you are generating it through voltage or by charge current altering these yeilds isotopes the circuit is emersed in a surrounding field that can be upset by either force why does a resistor work because there is a energy difference in the carbon either through spin or charge flux disopation with the air if a bare wire is set it the air it will not have the same capacitive value to the air as a coated wire the surface tention value will change pick any pointon the JT circuit and place one end of the cap the other end goes to a coil with a wire open to the air a diode across the cap and as the voltage rises the cap will charge the mmf will build in the coil and when the voltage begins to drop the current will continue to flow through the diode to the circuit.

sorry i have to go but will be back

Martin

[stprue]

@ Jeanna

TRM is complete but still not right...I dont think it will work if the base and collector coils are not in the x2 set up.  I will wind this to prove the theory at some point soon.

[jeanna]

@ Jeanna

TRM is complete but still not right

Good,

it is complete... I took mine out so it is no longer complete! 
but not right?
do you mean no voltage is now less than it was with one quarter?

...I dont think it will work if the base and collector coils are not in the x2 set up.

Are yours the hazens style? I remember thinking they were.

OR, by x2 do you mean crossed over and in 2 directions total?

We will see. I am making mine with both primary at 4 directions and also the pickup in the same 4 parts or quarters inside where the primary left a bare spot on the toroid.

I am rewinding in separated sections.
I think the MK2 directions are for this sort of thing. -- You make the turns then figure out which combo works the best.
I am making a code on the wire ends so I can tell them apart.

@Ist,

Are you twisting the leads together in that very neat fashion for a reason?
There are people who call this a mobius. (I don't like the name, but they love it. so, ok. I would rather call it a double spiral.. oh well.) Is there a mobius reason for the twisting?

thank you both,

jeanna

[innovation_station]

HERE IS MY 3 PHASE 2 FREQ JT SCOPED... 

IST 

COLLECTOR / ACCELERATOR  AND MK2 GENERATOR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhPwuxk7T2g