Joule Thief

[electricme]

@Bill,

Jim:

Thanks for your kind words you posted on my youtube video of the 48" tube lighting from the EB/JT. As you saw, I was taking a bit of a beating from that guy that says he is an EE who said I could never light anything from an EB because they only put out microvolts at best.  I wonder how he thinks I lit the tube in the video?

Oh well, thanks for the support mate.  I really do appreciate it.

Bill

That's quite OK Bill.
I'm a bit old fashioned and direct when I see someone who is taking a caineing from an all knowing person who obviously didn't know what he was talking about.
When I saw he was hounding and baiting you, I just saw red,     no-one deserves that.

Everyone on this forum knows how sincere you are, and you can prove what you say you can do.
That's good enough for this kid.

Keep your chin up mate.

jim

[TheNOP]

@ NOP:

Who says the EB is not OU?  And why?  If I can input 0 votls/amps/watts into a system and light a 48" tube then why is this not OU?  I would be very interested in this answer.  I have heard all of the galvanic reasons before but, to my satisfaction, they have been proven false.  This was done by me, and many others in the EB topics.

Maybe now we are getting to the semantics of what is, and is not OU.  This, of course, is a very sticky topic with no real consensus from what I can see.  This is why I ask where your info comes from.

Bill

well, it can't be over unity since not even a unity is inputed in the process.
for me ou is: using energy to create more energy.
i am not talking about the energy used to make the materials here.
i am talking of a force applyed to create a greater force.

a heat pump is not a ou device, yet they have a cop of ~4
the energy is not created by the pump, it is already in the air.
the heat pump is only displacing it.
since you are not creating the energy it can't be ou.
beside heat pump there must surely be other devices able to displace energy while in operation.

for me, the EB fall into the same "free energy" category as the lemon or salt batteries.
except that the materials used seem not to be consume in the process, according to some.
i don't have an EB yet, so i only rely on reports on it.

no one will be able to achive overunity, ever.
that does not mean nothing can be accomplish to free ourself from the energies compagnies tho.
the jt is a proof of that to me.
what i am asking myself about it is: how much energy does something really need to work.

as you said, everyone have his own opignion on what is ou.
but who is right ?

ask Stefan, apply the EB for the ou price, see what will be the outcome.
price to be splited to the active member of the EB tread or to the one with the most efficient design.

[WilbyInebriated]

@bill
drevtoob is one of desertpiles sycophants.
just a heads up.

[electricme]

@Resonanceman
Thankyou for this extra info.

Jim

I thought  for sure that I had a link to the  LED light  I was talking about ...... here it  is

http://www.besthongkong.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=UV+mr+16&osCsid=9555530c4f0e22c8544160f961af0560&x=12&y=5

This  light is designed to run at 12 V  AC or DC
Like  a florescent  blacklight it is easy to see that it is on.
It  does not look bright , it looks light purple


gary

I thought you was having trouble with just 1 LED, thats why I put forward a quick fix suggestion.
I went and took a look at the web address site, it is a very big LED array isn't it.

jim

[Pirate88179]

@bill
drevtoob is one of desertpiles sycophants.
just a heads up.

Wilby:

Ah, that makes a lot of sense now, thank you for the heads up.

@ Jim:

Thanks again for the support, I really appreciate it.

@ NOP:

Thanks for your reply.  I think we can agree to disagree on what is and is not OU.  I am not even sure I "know" what it is.  But, thank you for leaving the cost of materials out of the equation, I think this is the correct way to look at it.  The EB will not take the ou prize as it needs to make a lot more power output.  But, you never know, maybe one day.

Bill