Joule Thief

[resonanceman]

Thank you all so very much for the feed back. I really want to understand the goal of the project. Is it to reach OU? If so how? I do not think anyone has went OU yet. Or at least has not proved it considering there are tons of prizes that would go to the first person to do so.

-Altrez

Altrez

Tons of prizes?

I don't  think that there are all that many  real prizes

If  skeptics offer a prize it is  only bait  to  lure   into a trap  to be  publicly discredited.
True skeptics will explain away  any OU  even if the proof is right in front of them ........ 

From what I have seen  scientists  today  have   little honesty ........their  studies prove what ever they  are paid to prove .  If a skeptic  is set on proving you wrong ..... that is what he will do .....even if you are right 
If people  are  setting  up prizes  just to  find people to discredit    they  make the rules ......they own the  contest .......  they have the final say .

If you want to try for a prize  ........check it out carefully  before  you sign up . 

gary

[gadgetmall]

@all

Ok perhaps I simply do not understand what is truly going on with the JT. However I do not believe without some hard evidence that 1 AA battery can light a 20 watt tube to full brightness no matter what type of JT winding you use.

The numbers just do not add up. 1.5 volts at 2.5 amps = 4 watts for 1 hour under perfect conditions. So it is possible to light a 4 watt tube. Now perhaps the numbers on the tubes lie and one really does not need the full 20 watts of power to achieve full brightness.

I plan to test that theory with a controlled experiment.

Thank you all so very much for the feed back. I really want to understand the goal of the project. Is it to reach OU? If so how? I do not think anyone has went OU yet. Or at least has not proved it considering there are tons of prizes that would go to the first person to do so.

-Altrez

You are missing the Point of this . a 20 watt rating is the filament  wattage not the light output . 20 watts is what it takes for the HEATERS on the bulb . we dont use HEATERS with JT AC . We ionize the gas without Heating it . there for we can light a so called "20 watt" floro because the jt will make the gas glow and emmit UV and the light will come from the Florescence coating on the inside of the tube . we don't need WATTS to do this . we need VOLTAGE to Make the GAS IN THE TUBE IONIZE therefor emmiting UV .
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[Pirate88179]

Hey, one more quick thought on the "empty" electricity subject.  In the early stages of learning about electricity, we are all taught the comparison of water flowing in a pipe.  this analogy holds up pretty well for a while and is helpful to picture what may be going on.

Well, if volts are the pressure, and amps are the flow rate, gallons/minute, I have an example for you.  Have you ever seen a water cutting machine?  These were pretty new when I had my machining company about 16 years ago.  They take a fine diameter stream of water at very, very high pressure, and they can cut a 1" piece of steel like it is butter.  Now, the flow rate for this device is very low (low amps?) and yet it does something incredible.  I may be pushing the "water in a pipe" analogy a little too far here but, in my mind this shows what can be done with mostly volts.

I hope this makes sense.

Bill

[jeanna]

Hi everybody,
I posted this next door. I thought I would share it here too.:

I was looking around for help with inductors today and found 2 calculation sites.

I like the first one better, but they are both probably great.

http://www.66pacific.com/calculators/coil_calc.aspx
and

http://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/

The progression looks good on the 66pacific site.
If you start with your coil you get the henries then you plunk that result into the next one.

have a look,

jeanna

edit.
That is a great analogy, Bill.
I really like that.
It makes the point very nicely that you can do something entirely unheard of using the elements you have had at your disposal all along!

[gadgetmall]

IST


How  are you suggesting  we power this ?



Just for kicks I wired up my mot  as a JT coil
On my mot there is  2 windings ......the low voltage winding is   much heavier wire than the high voltage winding ........there are only   2 connections to the low voltage .........3  to the high
The HV  has  2 white and one red .......it turns out that the red is  connected to the  core of the mot . .......
When   I  connected   the  HV  and LV coils together  with  a   jumper  then  hooked it up as  a normal JT    It fired right  up .
A cap in the tank seems to  make  it transfer more power ....... 


It must have very sharp spikes ........  with  a cap even  just  a .01 uf  my when  it is adjusted to make the array blink  I can hear  a snapping sound coming from my array
Correction    it  is coming from my  alligator clip

It is arcing

This  thing may  have  the  ability  to  recharge the battery  with no other  coils   
With the Jesus charger    the  battery voltage rises   when I adjust the pot for low  draw

It  also seems to eat LEDs     
I  notices some  of the LEDs in my array were VERY bright  the rest were either  very dim or not coming on at all .
Now after  running a while  none of them are coming on ........and  the LED on my JT board is  shot too .


gary

Welcome to the DEAD LED SOCIETY Now we know we have to put them in series instead of parallel . The mot Increases AMPS if you notice also . Its a cool Device and i pick every microwave up that i see . You can use the TABLE motor as a Generator also .
@altrez get one and make a jt out of it and you will see also . Hey try this . just take a one volt cell and short it with a wire and watch the spark . tiny then take the two primary wires and spark a 1 volt battery dead short . look at the BIG BLUE SPARK now . Its 100 times as big in my opinion .
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