Joule Thief

[stprue]

edit add:That amounts to the Hazens style, so it will be a good one to remember to tune and get it as perfect as possible before going to the nexr stage. cool.
jeanna

Well honestly I don't expect it to work because all my other attempt at an MK style coil have failed.  I will post pic's anyways!

[jeanna]

Well honestly I don't expect it to work because all my other attempt at an MK style coil have failed.  I will post pic's anyways!

Just remember, nothing happened for a while then when the resistance got down far enough, or to the right level for this setup, bam!
The base resistor has a lot to say about the frequency of the joule thief.

when the speeds/frequency's are right....What happens a 10' wave suddenly becomes a 50' wave.  Man I think I was just rambling...Sorry

no no, rambling is good. People can get ideas or inspiration from intelligent rambling, which is what I would call that bit about the waves. I agree and think it is important,.

May I add that the only time we really notice the waves from the ocean is when they interface with something stationary like an island or continent. the return waves, maybe or just because of the shape of the land under the ocean that gradually rises to the surface... hmm more rambling...

Oh, and when you bend over the boat and take a scoop of water in the funnel the waves stop and all you have is what you scooped up. ( a cap when added for collection.)

jeanna

[innovation_station]

Well honestly I don't expect it to work because all my other attempt at an MK style coil have failed.  I will post pic's anyways!

failed ? 

lol

no !    there  no failures only excerises to learn 



this life is a gift ....   so we all can experience learning ... ooo  its just sooooo much fun .. beats school   

well   i guess it is video time ...   

and fire up the !school!   

if i cant sell the rings ...  well o well  ill sell all the knowalage i have gained ...   

open source of cource

anyone else want to display there thing e inventions in free engery device videos ? 

you must explain in full detail of the device too   

this is to get it out there im sure stephen will sell them on this site ... 

gadget?   mk1 bill jeanna and all others are welcome to join if you like

mk1 btw the angry lion was awake a while ...  but the nice one has become ballanced ...

only cuz the shock ya rocks.. 

and the understanding that comes from them sure is somthing ...

ist  RAHAHAHAHAHHA  ~A LAUGHING ROAR~   

[Mk1]

@sprue

Ok please post picture of the coil , to see if there is not something missing first , then tell how did you test the pickup coil , on voltage meter it will not show unless you use a diode.This is why we use those here.Most don't have scope so they need to find other ways . I have made the mk from many type of toroid , they all worked some just did give the output with a 4/4 jt .

But before making a x2 , try the regular one one simple coil on each side , make the regular 4 turns and leave some for tuning .

I said that before know you toroid first .

Mark

I what you to make it work this time , don't give up because i wont ...


Edit also check the post on page 478 with drawing , for reference.

[xee2]

@ jeanna

If you were able to light the neon with the pickup coil then you are definitely getting at least 100 volts out. Therefore I assume your DMM is not reading correctly as you have also concluded.

Can you use your scope in place of the DMM to measure the voltage across the capacitor? Does the scope have a multimeter built in? I need to use a capacitor to measure the voltage. And the voltage measured will depend on the value of the capacitance. So unless you are able to measure using a diode and a capacitor I do not think we will ever get the same readings. Without being able to get the same readings I do not see how we can compare results.

As far as I can tell the latest drawing by Mk1 was the same as a coil wound with half of the turns going clockwise and the other half going counterclockwise with the clockwise and counterclockwise turns alternating. I have not tried this. But I have made coils with half of the turns going clockwise and the other half going counterclockwise and the performance is the same as if all of the turns go clockwise. I have also made neat coils and sloppy coils. My experience is that a neatly wound coil does not work any better. As long as all of the turns go around the toroid in the same direction I do not think it matters if they are put on in a clockwise direction, a counterclockwise direction, or back and forth between clockwise and counterclockwise. But I am trying to understand what Mk1 is doing because he says he does see a difference so I will try this as soon as I am sure I understand what he is doing.

I need to leave now. I will check back tonight.