Joule Thief

[jeanna]

@Jeanna

Did you get a chance to see the pic of my coil?  Im going to change the base/collector coils but I hope to have it up and running tonight or tomorrow.

Yes,
OOPS
I didn't reply.  sorry.
Which are the base and collector coils?
I would guess that you have several sets of them, but I think I must be mistaken.

On the big coil, I could not actually tell if you went over on the first set and under on the second (but, I think you did, didn't you?) or over on both. I could not figure how to ask this Q. I still am not sure how to ask, but I just tried.

@All,
I have just finished round 1 for today.
I discovered a little shiny copper on a spot that gave unexpected results, so I am waiting for my nail polish to dry  before I continue.

I decided to keep the numbers small to more easily test the concepts. So, the total on my first round is 16T.
16 is because there are 4 quarter sections so 4 turns each section...
So, for comparison, I added 2 to the 14T I had on there yesterday and checked.
Then I removed all but 4T and measured them as I had yesterday.
Then I put 4 more turns in the next section and measured.
etc.

The voltage continued to rise as hoped.
The wave form changed with each additional section added.
The only time there was a reversal of progress was at the end. This could be from the broken insulation. We will see.

The reason for all this inquiry, is that the direction of the way the wire is wrapped around the primary is changing. Each time it is changing, the wire I am wrapping has one way at one side of it and the opposite way on the other side.

so, I am watching.

In 2 places maybe all 3 there appears a wave of the waves. I measured this greater wave too.
One of them even looks like that boxy thing I posted yesterday.

jeanna

[innovation_station]

@Ist,
It is normal when you add a neo to a jt toroid for the frequency to go way high.

It is also normal for the voltage to drop when this happens.

Thanks for posting all of that.
It is great!

jeanna

this is not what i have done ... 

my freq stays the same  i get my second wave of spikes and ringggingggg when i add the neo ... 

my freq does not jump or change the freq between the 2 freqs .. accelerates ...

ill make a video today and try to put it on youtube ....   

just demoing this effect ....   

im not explaining it in a video ...

william

[stprue]

Yes,
OOPS
I didn't reply.  sorry.
Which are the base and collector coils?

They are the thicker lighter colored one but I will be changing a little bit.

I would guess that you have several sets of them, but I think I must be mistaken.

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The total will be 2 collector and 2 base

On the big coil, I could not actually tell if you went over on the first set and under on the second (but, I think you did, didn't you?) or over on both. I could not figure how to ask this Q. I still am not sure how to ask, but I just tried.

jeanna
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Yes when I finished one side I crossed over to the next in an x2 fashion.  I cant wait to see what happens 

[jeanna]

@Stprue,
I can tell you right now, it is a lot.

I have been playing with small numbers of turns to see if one way gives more or less than another way.

Well, ours are different from each other.

You are using a 'normal- for us' primary of 2T2T and that enormous coil is your secondary/pickup. - Is that correct?

My primary is that dblxx thing just as I drew in the final drawing which has 5T,5T but split and crossed as 3T2T each, and THEN, crossed at 90 degrees as in the Tesla rotating mag field patent.

The secondary/pickup is like the tesla patent too.
Well, just for a standard, I made one with 4 turns in each block all going around in a straight ring, but now for the excitement, I am making them cross over to the opposite side and reverse the direction too. We will see.

The advantage of this as I see it, is that like the MK1 designs, the wire will follow in different directions, but unlike that design, it will not be too close to any other wire with current in the opposite direction. This SHOULD allow the new direction leeway to go without any brakes, so to speak.

This is such fun!

jeanna

[stprue]

@Stprue,
I can tell you right now, it is a lot.

I have been playing with small numbers of turns to see if one way gives more or less than another way.

Well, ours are different from each other.

You are using a 'normal- for us' primary of 2T2T and that enormous coil is your secondary/pickup. - Is that correct?

My primary is that dblxx thing just as I drew in the final drawing which has 5T,5T but split and crossed as 3T2T each, and THEN, crossed at 90 degrees as in the Tesla rotating mag field patent.

The secondary/pickup is like the tesla patent too.
Well, just for a standard, I made one with 4 turns in each block all going around in a straight ring, but now for the excitement, I am making them cross over to the opposite side and reverse the direction too. We will see.

The advantage of this as I see it, is that like the MK1 designs, the wire will follow in different directions, but unlike that design, it will not be too close to any other wire with current in the opposite direction. This SHOULD allow the new direction leeway to go without any brakes, so to speak.

This is such fun!

jeanna

Ok I think I finally understand how most of you label coils my primary consists of (Righ now but not for long...maybe) both collector and base coils meaning that's what I connect them too, but they will not be 2T as 2 Turns what I meant was 2collectro coils at some amount of turns as well as 2 base coils the same.  I was going to have them  away from eachother.   The secondary/pickup is the large windings that go accross in the X2 fashion.  You may be right in needing to cross over the both!  We will see.

I'm actually starting to concepitalize this as a kind of bidini at lease in visualizing the magnetic spin only that the only friction is the wire itself and maybe some potential eddy currents.  Think about it though....what if one of us was able to make a design that continued to excellerate on it's own....kinda sounds like a TPU which always caught my attention.  Sorry ranting on a daydream again!