Joule Thief

[innovation_station]

the ign coil is my shift coil ....

 

same shit!  just the shift rotates

and you can tap it in a magnetic fasion as to what ever voltage you want

it will be tuned mass to mass or 3 6 or 9 there of ... short stout wire as tesla says and a much longer secondary .. wich is a powered choke coil block it on the input so it has but 1 path ...

take a microwave diode and rectify the out put to a super cap and a wire in the ground ......

ist!

now if you can get the JT from an EB to power the IGN   then all you need is a BATCAP  and a INVERTOR CONVERTOR RING  lol

OR YOU COULD BUILD MY 6 COIL JT FLY BACK BATCAP RING LOL

i can only dream up the ideas ..  and only build a few of the many i dream up

what can i say i have done my best on much less than most of your food budgets ... 

i have litt light bulbs in the past with just the fly back from 1 freq and 12v 1 amp ..

120v 15 + watt   neo zap did a 60 watt .. by hand with out any driveing curcuitry not being rectified and i dont think it matters much the load .. 

1 day i make my way through in this world ..

untill then life has me packing up my few things i have left .. 

yep makes me wonder ...  the hope of a better day .. and being a father to my children is the only thing that keeps me going ... 

[electricme]

@Jeanna,

Yes, thank you. It is.


OK so, now I can twist together the 2 wires of the joule thief primary and put them both into the pos rail of the breadboard, and it IS a bifilar wind because of that,

yet,

if the end of the primary of an induction coil is connected to the end of the secondary and they both connect to the pos of the car battery (in that diagram it was the pos) that somehow takes it out of a bifilar and allows it to act as a transformer with all that this word implies.

NO

Yes, this is exactly my question.
IF they are electrically connected, then they are acting just the way the joule thief primary bifilar wires are acting.
(which is NOT a transformer)

NO
thank you,

jeanna

OK if you look at that above circuit, it is positave earth.

NO, the ignition coil is not a bifillar wound coil.
The connection of the end wires never implies it is bifilar.
It is just 2 separately wound coils, sharing a common iron laminated form.

Bifilar is 2 wires wound together in parallel.

Trifilar is 3 wires wound together in parallel.

It has 2 separately wound coils, separated by a insulating layer.

I have a redundant coil outside which I am willing to pull apart to put an end to all this tommy rot.

It is a bulk standard tesla transformer coil, period.

If the primary coil was wound in a bifilar fashion, (2 separate wires in parallel, which it isn't) then it could be termed a joule thief wound transformer tesla coil.

jim

[xee2]

@ electricme

I have a redundant coil outside which I am willing to pull apart to put an end to all this tommy rot.

I do not see the point in doing that. There are two good drawings of what is inside of the coils at the top of previous page and many more available for anyone who is willing to goggle for ignition coil images. I think jeanna is just having a hard time understanding something that seems strange to her. I suspect that in time it will make sense to her.

[electricme]

@all

You can make your own minds up about who is right.

Below is a ignition coil I pulled apart late this afternoon.
The last time I looked inside an ignition coil might of been almost 40 years ago, I was curious to know what they would look like now, they have a lot less wire.
I have a couple more here so I won't miss this one.

1222 = Guts of the ign coil together.
1221 = Primary only
1220 = Secondary only

When I lifted up this coil assembly, the Primary and secondary actually fell off by themselves, there probably was about 3 cupfuls of cooling oil, which I saved.

I see NO JOULE THIEF windings on this coil.

@Exee2
I make posts (Text, Pics or MOV files) of what I believe is relavent and right, for the topic at hand, when I want to, I don't need anyone suggesting my posting of them is unhelpful, although I do understand the reason for you suggesting this.



It's also not helpful to allow an injustice to continue when 2 people who have tried to help someone asking for help, and both have been publicly named and copped it in the neck for doing so.

It would be more helpful if this was handled by PMs.
If you think I am being a bit harsh, take a look at this post I made here.

Scroll to #15 (look for it right side of post)

http://forums.altnews.com.au/content/what-can-we-do-about-corruption-docs   

I think you will see my nerves are a little bit raw just now

jim
(Ret Auto Electrician)

[innovation_station]

the ign coil is simple .. yes a tesla design indeed ... 

oil ... lol

probally why the caps i used with my mot demo years ago .. charged so well 

yep just like a water cap cell

the ign coil is 2 coils primary sets up a a magnetic feild .. in the soft iron secoind coil is also powered so the soft iron core is saturated .. and when you cut the flow wheres it gonna go .. if it has but 1 path ?

and when you colpase the magnetic feild it colpases out the fine wire .. hence the spark .. in the plugg

but it dont matter it ALL COMES BACK TO THE KICK ... ALL OF IT ! 

IST!

IN MY HV HIGH AMP TPU WITH OUT A CORE WHERE WILL THE COLAPSE GO ... ?   ...  IT WILL WANT TO RETURN TO WHERE IT CAME FROM BUT IF YOU DONT LET IT WHERE WILL IT GO ..

btw same as my hemf transformer...