Joule Thief

[innovation_station]

just cuz i love to build things...

wonder if it will improve the output ...

ist

thought to manifstation in an hour or 2 lol 

yikes ...  zapping right along ... 

[electricme]

@ IST
I must apologise if I have hogged your own breakthrew here, I came first he he.


Hi Ist, I have some important info, and it is something I discovered today
You can use different metal configurations to get the same result, but it gives opersate polaritory.

thank you for your drawing jesus ..

it is correct ... 

cap does not matter nor does the out put ... 

ist!

it will be more than you applied even in 1 pulse ..

please try it

this is ottos work i just added a few things and yea!

nuttin new ..  well maybe jims work 

i never ever built an EB but now i will have to do so ...... thanks jim .... lol  like i needed more to do lol 

(my pleassure he he)

do you think mutipul zink nails in the center will boost amps... ?  or how about zink coated iron wire ... i just happen to have pounds of it ... lol  and have an unlimited free supply of it ...

say i took like 30 strands in a bunch and wraped 1 around the outside ..

OK a few days ago I made my very first successful series cells, as Bill suggests we call it a EER setup, I'm in favor of calling it anything that is approperate, and if it is easy to remember.

(Earth Energy Recovery)

I used th efirst materials that came to hand, I used for the outside electrode a aluminium pipe, it was a handle I took off one of those electric scooters with tiny belt driven wheels.

I grabbed a roll of insulation tape, and insulated the "outside" of the ally pipe.
I alowed the tape to go over the bottom edge of the pipe, then I tucked/poked the overhanging insulation tape,  inside the bottom of the ally tube.

Next I drove the pipe into the earth, if the earth is too hard, break the soil up with a pick and shuvvle.

Next I got the soft earth and filled the ally tube to the top.
Next I rammed the earth in good and tight.


Next I got a bit of 1/2 dia copper pipe, and drove it into the middle of the earth which is inside the ally pipe, DONT go past the end of the bottom of the ally pipe.

This makes up 1 EER cell

Make as many as you need to, to get what ever voltage you need.

This arrangement -- Aluminium outside metal with a Copper inner electrode produces POSITAVE on the CENTER of the cell, Ally is the NEGATIVE.


NOW, if you use a COPPER outside metal, with a ZINC (coated nail) inner electrode, produces POSITAVE on the OUTSIDE, NEGATIVE is the Center electrode.

The Energy is SWAPPED around.

I now have 2 seperate EER assemblies, close to each other, but their polarity is oppersate to each other, but they are being powered by the same earth energy, at the same time.

Its very important to remember that different metals will produce an opersate polarity EER energy device.

jim


OK, my theory is this.

It stands to reason, that the more pipes EER cells you apply, the higher voltage you will get out, I don't know if there is a limit or not, no idea at all.

BUT, it alsdo stands to reason, if one was to use much bigger pipe, and longer pipe, then it would be possible to get AMPS with volts, now, that is serious power in my book.

I found after putting all my EER cells in the ground, each one measured .5 volts independantly, in series, it was 1.7 volts which is the best I have EVER had, but when I added the WATER to each EER cell, then around the outside of the whole arrangement, then it took off.

It was amazing to see the voltage RISE as I filled each EER cell

jim

Should you use pounds of wire? of course.
Get a plastic former and wind a single layer, from go to whu, tack solder it make a simple electrode, youcould make the same with a rolled sheet of any metal.

The two metals you use, must not touch each other, if you want amps, I think get the inside electrode as close as you can to the outer electrode, wrap the innner electrode in some thing that is porus, paper will work CHUX wipe should be better. I think it is a mass thing or cross sectional area thing, the more metal you have exposed the more energy is picked up by the EER assembly.

If you want, pm me with your number and I wil talk to you about this.

jim

[innovation_station]

zink and alum tryed that ? just the 2?

i got no copper pipe ...

got some flat stock alum ..  i could roll up in layers like a cap it is painted 1 side ... for alum trim work i was a cladder many years ... 

i sold my break a wile ago ....  sick of that crap ... lol

so i took up inventing ...  so far i have not made much at it at all but i have learned alot ... in my travels ...

ist

[electricme]

@Bill

LOL,

@ Jim:

OK, you have had more than enough time.... are you getting 500kW out of your set-up yet?? (Ha ha)

Seriously, I really can't wait to see what happens next.

Bill

You carnt wait, me tooo mate, no I'm stuck with a tiny tiny tiny amount of power, but to prove the principle, I had to make it a small EER setup, cause this all I had, but I proved its possible, it can be done.

I got the volts flowing, mabe IST can get the grunt flowing also, this is a breakthrew, a real one.

Kilowatts, hmmmm just you wait, he he, it will come, there will be a race here no doubt to make the first, just think of the posibilities.

I need only 24v DC at 20 amps to power up my 1 KW UPS, then we will be away.
I think each cell would need to be about 3 meters in length to get amps.
I don't know if distances between cells matter just yet, though it could do.

jim
 

[electricme]

@ IST,

No, I havent tried Zinc and Alum.

Aluminium and copper does work, polaritory, Positave always seems to stay with the copper electrode.

jim

zink and alum tryed that ? just the 2?

i got no copper pipe ...

got some flat stock alum ..  i could roll up in layers like a cap it is painted 1 side ... for alum trim work i was a cladder many years ... 

i sold my break a wile ago ....  sick of that crap ... lol

so i took up inventing ...  so far i have not made much at it at all but i have learned alot ... in my travels ...

ist