Joule Thief

[innovation_station]

Mag:

You can run a Bedini type motor from the b-caps and get rid of the batteries all together.  I am not saying it will run forever or anything but, the caps pick-up the back emf spikes in a more efficient manner than do batteries from my experience, for whatever that is worth.

Bill

well i am saying my toys built properly and understood properly ..  will run forever and beond lol

i aint jokeing ... 

just look at what i can do with a aa and 1 transistor 1 diode ...  lol   

all i need are those damm bcaps...   i tell ya..  hahahahaha


ist

this is what im gonna do ...  buy your own b cap ...  and study it your self ... 

100 bucks cdn ... its yours ... ill hard board it ...  you saw the videos ...  YOU STUDY IT ...  lol

then if i sell 2 ill have my 1000 bucks i spent months ago ...  for my materials ..  then ill study the same thing ... lol

here is the second video ... ill have to pulse it SLOW SO AS I DONT BLOW UP THE BCAPS ....

I YI YI .... 

100 BUCKS ITS YOURS ...  ODDS are i have a bunch more of those transformers .. 

thank you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5FmO55sBAU

pm me if your intrested to purchise a study unit ... all that is needed is a simple relay ... wich i may do public ... i may not ...  than that could be atomitic

getting the IDEA YET   LOL

ok watch  i have 2 outputs...  1 goes to recharge source ... the NORMAL JT SPIKES....  OTHER CHARGES B CAP....   guess wich is wich ... : )

[Magluvin]

I hear ya Bill
Lets say not a bedini that battery switching over time is done. In a simple pulse motor, if you capture the back emf and store it to a cap using 1 diode, that voltage in the cap is not capable of being sent back to the bat due to opposite polarity and gnd or common reference connections. But if we use a jt to take from the cap and send its output to the bat, we could make use of most of what we stored in the cap. Even if the pulse motor had a separate charge coil on the rotor to charge a cap, of which some have gotten very good efficiencies from, maybe a jt can help to exceed that by taking the power stored in the cap to send back to the drive bat, or cap as you say, by using what is in the cap that is below the batteries voltage, otherwise that  energy is idle as it is not above the bats voltage to charge it.
I havnt seen anyone do a combo like this and just spitting it out to see what the JT's have to say about the possibilities.

And to ist,  Yer one crazy dude, dude. You kind of sound like Tito, but 2 hours into the hit of acid you took.    Just playin. Yer funny though.

Mags

[jadaro2600]

@gadgetmall

Congratulations!!!

Just dont fight the battle of the patent. Post a schematic for the forum members to replicate and because not everybody likes to build it themselves you can sell kits of it on your website and get as rich as you posibly can.

It does not matter. The world is so big and there are so many people in it that always you will have some people to sell a kit to and your table wont be empty never.

Jesus

This is strange, because it seems that patents are taken out for only frivolous things now days.  It seems to be a growing trend to stray from them ( perhaps a great deal of useful things have come up already ).

How do you GET the crystal to squeeze in your circuit??

It was so interesting to see the squeezed crystal making multiple rounds of spikes.
I have been looking for the video I made.
I will turn on the other computer. I hope it is there.

thank you,

jeanna

You could make a coil of so many turns, ..and the divide then coil, simply pull it apart at the center and place the crystal between it, the action of current would cause the coils to attract, and thus a pressure would ensue.  This is a way to squeeze a crystal.

You would need something to hold the crystal securely.

[innovation_station]

here is another ... RA  way lol

cadisous 3 loop put the sphere inside ..  it ....

or  crystal   use the sclar from cad is ou s wind x point to minipulate it at its resonant ... 


so many ways ... 


ist

or pass me my staff .. and ill show you lol

the ball can sit directed in between the snakes heads .. and when you touch it .. you ENGERIZE IT..

la de da ..  i know who i am

this is only a small part .. of it tho ...  so dont get your hopes up lol ...

[jadaro2600]

I hear ya Bill
Lets say not a bedini that battery switching over time is done. In a simple pulse motor, if you capture the back emf and store it to a cap using 1 diode, that voltage in the cap is not capable of being sent back to the bat due to opposite polarity and gnd or common reference connections. But if we use a jt to take from the cap and send its output to the bat, we could make use of most of what we stored in the cap. Even if the pulse motor had a separate charge coil on the rotor to charge a cap, of which some have gotten very good efficiencies from, maybe a jt can help to exceed that by taking the power stored in the cap to send back to the drive bat, or cap as you say, by using what is in the cap that is below the batteries voltage, otherwise that  energy is idle as it is not above the bats voltage to charge it.
I havnt seen anyone do a combo like this and just spitting it out to see what the JT's have to say about the possibilities.

And to ist,  Yer one crazy dude, dude. You kind of sound like Tito, but 2 hours into the hit of acid you took.    Just playin. Yer funny though.

Mags

One option you may consider is using more than one outter coil on the Bedini.  Just use this one to do the energy take off, and recircutale the back emf from the primary.

This is essentiall what steorn is doing, their setup just does what i've said and uses more gathering coils.  Bedini uses one, and it's reference frame / voltage is obscured by having a trifilar wound primary.  In fact, the current surging in cause current surging out on the other two, so when examined side by side, there is probably a lot of wobble in the waveforms' tail ( which is a sign of waste ).

Pirate (Bill), I know you've got one of these setup, do you care to link to your version of the schematics? There are myriads of these plans on the internet, all varying to a degree.