Joule Thief

[MrMag]

i do agree and i did not mean to offend anyone much less you gary!  BTW EVERYONE IS GENIOUS ! EACH IN THERE OWN WAY ..   im sorry that this is MY WAY!  at least i shared at all..... many have not !

here is MY npn MAGIC MAKER .... 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NiTTZFnEX4

there you mesurements mr mags!

your schem you have 15 + pages full! 

thank you!

w

Not sure why you are calling it a magic maker. Looks like a basic jt. Hard to tell for sure without a schematic or drawing. The measurements you are taking are what? What is the input power and output power? Voltages across different test points in the circuit don't really mean anything. Also, when you are taking voltage readings from what you say are rectified and unrectified, why are you not switching the meter between AC and DC. Doesn't rectified mean DC and unrectified mean AC?

Can you also post where the 15+ pages of your schematics are.

[resonanceman]

i do agree and i did not mean to offend anyone much less you gary!  BTW EVERYONE IS GENIOUS ! EACH IN THERE OWN WAY ..   im sorry that this is MY WAY!  at least i shared at all..... many have not !

here is MY npn MAGIC MAKER .... 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NiTTZFnEX4

there you mesurements mr mags!

your schem you have 15 + pages full! 

thank you!

w

IST

I was not offended .........but it did seem to me like it was time to say  something.
The concept of " stupid " has seemed to be coming  up more and more in your posts.
I stopped using  the concept of stupid many years ago.


As I see  it life is kind of like a jigsaw puzzle ....... no one has all the information  or talent .....we each  have a few pieces to offer.

I don't think it is possible to think of someone  as stupid witout discounting all that they know that you do not know.
By calling someone  stupid  you are saying I know this  and you don't  so I am superior  to you ........

To me calling  someone here stupid is kind of like getting a new jigsaw puzzle opening it up and throwing out all the pieces that have red in them ........because  red is an inferior color.

You never know  when somone is going to find their genius
You never know who might make a comment that puts you on  track for a new discovery

No one here  deserves to be thrown away.

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Nice video........  I still do not  understand  what you use the diodes for ......  I have a board that I use that is kind of similar.......except no  diodes.
I use  it just to make it easier to make changes to a circuit.
yours looks much more profesional
Mine is just a piece  of wood with some a heat sink attached to it.......and some screws for connection points
I use alligator clips for the connectrions.......it gets messy but  it gets the job done .

I couldn't  get a reading  at the last  part of the video........ you said that is why I call it the magic maker..........and the meter was flashing different numbers.

You said something of 15 pages  of of measurements
Did  I miss  a link  or something?

gary

[innovation_station]

in all honesty ... 

you all wonder why people be come annoyed ..... 


come on ...  i said there 15 pages of schmetics!  errrrrr.... 

+ golly

it is a darn transistor ...  with 2 diodes .   

im trying to teach the silly ones not stupid ones .!   

i show ALL POTENCIAL POINTS I CAN DRAW POWER FROM !  AND IN ALL MANNERES OF DOING SO ... 



ill sell ya 1 got 200 bucks?   then you scope it mesure it put it IN A TROPHY CASE  throw it out ...  i dont care


if you can not understand what in the hell im showing you ....   pick UP A NEW JOB!

ist!

sorry not to be rude but good grief!  lol 

i have a ground connection ...  i have a pulse wire flyback with a fr306 diode on it  i have another wire to the same tap point from the pulse wire colapse and it has no diode ..  i also have a wire taped to the base flyback and i then have another fr 306 diode off the base  and in my video i demo it ... in the STILLS IN THE VIDEO  YOU SEE THE PLACEMENT OF THE METER LEADS AND THE VOLTAGE THAT CAN BE DRAWEN FROM EACH PLACEMENT!

thank you!

[Pirate88179]

Hey:

I am the poster boy for stupid when it comes to electronics.  OK, maybe ignorant is the better word here.  When I started this topic way back when, you will see that I was asking a question.  I have since received many thousand replies to that question.

I can't thank the folks here enough for what I have learned since then.  I now have folks on Youtube asking me electronics questions....imagine that.  I know so much more than I did when I asked that first question about the JT circuit...but I am not done.  Not by a long shot.  As my Dad taught me, the more I learn, the more I realize that I do not know.  Nothing could be more true than that here.  You folks have taken the "simple" JT circuit well beyond anything I could have even dreamed about back then.  And, we are not done.

I do post schematics but, as you have seen, they look more like they were drawn by a drunk 1st grader.  Replication is the key here and I have done it, as have most of you.

Take the Jeanna Light for a great example.  First, we have OUR Jeanna who has developed this circuit, with the help of others here, that caught the attention of Lidmotor.  Lidmotor then added his own style to it and made the Jeanna Light.  I then, was able to replicate this circuit ONLY because of the crude but detailed drawings supplied by Lidmotor.  This circuit works.  This is what we have had here and this is what we still need.  Again, a great circuit is just that, but without replications....what is it?

I agree with Mr. Mag, Jeanna and also Gary.  Look what has gotten us to this point.  I see no reason to change that.  Again, replications are the key.  If someone wants folks to replicate their circuit, they NEED to supply ALL of the information needed to do so.

Anyway, that is all I have to say about that. (Forrest Gump)

Bill

[MrMag]

in all honesty ... 

you all wonder why people be come annoyed ..... 


come on ...  i said there 15 pages of schmetics!  errrrrr.... 

+ golly

it is a darn transistor ...  with 2 diodes .   

im trying to teach the silly ones not stupid ones .!   

i show ALL POTENCIAL POINTS I CAN DRAW POWER FROM !  AND IN ALL MANNERES OF DOING SO ... 



ill sell ya 1 got 200 bucks?   then you scope it mesure it put it IN A TROPHY CASE  throw it out ...  i dont care


if you can not understand what in the hell im showing you ....   pick UP A NEW JOB!

ist!

sorry not to be rude but good grief!  lol 

i have a ground connection ...  i have a pulse wire flyback with a fr306 diode on it  i have another wire to the same tap point from the pulse wire colapse and it has no diode ..  i also have a wire taped to the base flyback and i then have another fr 306 diode off the base  and in my video i demo it ... in the STILLS IN THE VIDEO  YOU SEE THE PLACEMENT OF THE METER LEADS AND THE VOLTAGE THAT CAN BE DRAWEN FROM EACH PLACEMENT!

thank you!

At least you moved it up a notch. Now not everyone is stupid just some and the rest are silly.
You are the one that said you had 15 pages of schematics.I don't remember seeing any from you.
So it is just a jt with a couple of additional diodes.
Again, I think you are putting the cart before the horse. You are saying that you have all of these point in which you can draw power but you don't show it being done. I would think that as soon as I start extracting voltages from some of those points that the dynamics of the circuit would change and may possibly stop working. But then again, I've only been tinkering in electronics for around 35 years so I probably fall under the "stupid" category.

I see you also want us to buy one of your joule thiefs for $200.00. Sounds like a deal. Who's up for it.