Joule Thief

[resonanceman]

Res and Jeanna,

I was thinking a large JT using a 12 volt battery...
                                                                         charging the water cap to over 1000 volts.

Then playing with the resistance to adjust frequency.

Bubble     Bubble ?

The Observer

Observer


getting 1000 V from a 12 V JT is easy......... at least unloaded........ keeping 1000 V while under a load is harder.

Have you ever played with MOTs?
A large microwave transformer with the 2 lower voltage winding  hooked together to make a JT..........
I tried this years ago when I first started playing  with 12V JTs........it scared me......  arced right  through the insulation  of my alligator clips.........and fried a DMM ........  now...... I am wondering how  strong it would  be using a IGBP........it might  be close to what you are looking for.

gary

[Pirate88179]

Why mess with dangerous and expensive mots when you can get over 2,000 volts from 1.5 volts input on a regular hand wound JT?  Over 4,000 volts if powered by 3 volts input, and so on.

Bill

[resonanceman]

Why mess with dangerous and expensive mots when you can get over 2,000 volts from 1.5 volts input on a regular hand wound JT?  Over 4,000 volts if powered by 3 volts input, and so on.

Bill

Bill

in short  the answer to your question is " power".

Yes.......you can  get very high voltage  with a single AA and a well made JT...........but what happens  when you connect that  JT to a low impedance load.......like a HHO cell?

I would   bet that a 2000V normal JT would drop  to under a volt when hooked up to a HHO cell........  you might  make some bubbles .......but probably not enough to do anything  with.

Voltage  alone is not enough........you need enough current to maintain some of that voltage.

Starting  with  higher  voltage and using a large MOT it should  be easy to get some high voltage with some  grunt behind it.


And ........yes  the  MOT is much more dangerous than a normal JT  because it is more powerful.

As for  expensive........ there are lots of  microwaves   getting thrown out all the time.........just keep your eyes open.

gary

[Pirate88179]

Gary:

Yes, OK, I agree with what you have said.  But be advised that over on the Kapanadze topic area, folks are finding out that when salvaging mots, most of the reason a micro wave is discarded is due to a short in the mot.  And you are correct, the power in those things can kill, instantly.  Hell, I still get shocked now and again from my little JT circuits (and I am being careful, ha ha) and I would not trust myself with a mot.

Have you seen Dr. Stiffler's latest video on his HHO production using only the SEC and a single diode?  It is very interesting.  There are NO connections to the diode at all and yet it produces hydrogen on the one end, and on the other.....nothing!  He says this has never been done before.  I do not understand how you can split h2o and only get hydrogen?  What happens to the oxygen?

Also, like the JT, he says he can run 1,000 or as many diodes as he wants with no more demand on the SEC. So he can produce a lot of gas for little input.


Bill

[resonanceman]

Gary:

Yes, OK, I agree with what you have said.  But be advised that over on the Kapanadze topic area, folks are finding out that when salvaging mots, most of the reason a micro wave is discarded is due to a short in the mot.  And you are correct, the power in those things can kill, instantly.  Hell, I still get shocked now and again from my little JT circuits (and I am being careful, ha ha) and I would not trust myself with a mot.

Have you seen Dr. Stiffler's latest video on his HHO production using only the SEC and a single diode?  It is very interesting.  There are NO connections to the diode at all and yet it produces hydrogen on the one end, and on the other.....nothing!  He says this has never been done before.  I do not understand how you can split h2o and only get hydrogen?  What happens to the oxygen?

Also, like the JT, he says he can run 1,000 or as many diodes as he wants with no more demand on the SEC. So he can produce a lot of gas for little input.


Bill

Bill

I know  how you feel about MOTs
My first experience with them scared me........and I have not played with them  much sense then.........

I am getting courious  about if IGBTs are more powerful than regular transistors when used for JTs........ a MOT would be a great test.
A small coil could limit the power........but a MOT should be able to take all we can throw at it.,


I normally don't follow Dr Stiffler but it sounds like I should watch that video.

Is he saying that the diodes act like that AV plug?  each diode picks up a little power?............so the more diodes the more power?


gary