Joule Thief

[WilbyInebriated]

Hey Bill. It's  good to hear from you!

I am still getting a slow flash.
I have been fiddling with different things and my guess is the best approach will be to have a resistor which is parallel to a cap together in series with one wire of the little bulb.
Probably this is all I will do. I do not see anything even efficient here, just interesting that I was finally able to get a filament to light.
Remember xee2 using one of these bulbs and getting a flash?
He was using koolers double whammy scr circuit, I think.

I am able to get a jtc to light from this secondary after it goes through the wall wart. It is one that has 2 secondaries, one white, one red and a memory cap across the leads.
It is about as bright as when the plant battery puts 3 or 4 mA into it.
Considering this is a jtc that will easily light 3 LoA bulbs of 20 leds each and light them at full brightness, this is a silly even disappointing exercise.

I think I will change the basic jtc from this 'hot rod' to a regular one and see what happens.

thank you,

jeanna

hi jeanna, below is a link where i showed a filament bulb being lit with one wire via high voltage. the bulb was a burnt out one, not all bulbs will work. i didn't need the tongs either, i can hold it in my fingers.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.msg218520#msg218520
several people asked how i did it, you included if i recall. i refrained from answering directly, i was trying to get people thinking about it. funniest thing was, the only person who guessed it was IST!

[jeanna]

So wilby,
Are you just saying that although this does not always work, a blown filament bulb can make a light with pulsed HV by acting as a plasma bulb.
Is that what you are saying?

juju on the EF just got his going this way too.

the light forms inside the bulb because the cold spark is continuous from one broken piece of filament to the other.

OK?

thank you,

jeanna

[WilbyInebriated]

So wilby,
Are you just saying that although this does not always work, a blown filament bulb can make a light with pulsed HV by acting as a plasma bulb.
Is that what you are saying?

juju on the EF just got his going this way too.

the light forms inside the bulb because the cold spark is continuous from one broken piece of filament to the other.

OK?

thank you,

jeanna

yes, not all burnt out bulbs will work. some do, some don't. there is a reason, i will leave that to the experimenter to work out.
sorta, the burnt bulb acts as an incandescent arc lamp when HV is passed through it. the remains of the filament on each end heat up due to the arc and begin to incandesce.

i don't know about 'cold spark', mine was rather warm...

hope this helps.

[cletushowell]

so the answer is the point gap is the light so there is no points there is no open loop no lost voltage
I knew the incandescent had those spirals in the wire to create a frequency that cant be made by the earth battery without making the frequency of every bulb or majority of them we cant switch unless some one designs a circuit thats adjustable frequency to the bulbs thats why leds work there straight not spiral fillament not a string basically hope you get this. so the longer the wire between the eart battery the bigger it will gap the shorter the
smaller so the led is the shortest but there going to rape us on leds so we need a frequency converter or these broken plasma bulbs this is genuis.

[cletushowell]

so tesla gaped the whole earth using lightning by determining the frequency of the bolts using his tesla coil thats how he created the 333 so with the grid the frequency and ability to store the energy you can magnify the whole earth to a giant cycling battery by sending the frequency around as it comes out the other side keeping it from returning to the stars dam he had a lot of power but now I have it.