Joule Thief

[NickZ]

  TK:
  From what we've seen. there is NO OU from a simple iron powder Joule Thief circuit.
Although some guys may have made some JTs that may be OU, or self charging, like the ones the Kooler had running for 5 months, using "special diodes". 

  What I did not like, is someone stating for years that his device is working with more output than is being provided by the input. To me this is somewhat demented.
I think that he may have given up by now... However, he does post on OUR forum though, in a locked thread, as too many people got on his case.
   I had ask him to provide proof that his JT would not drain a AA or a charged cap.
I asked Stefan to try it also on the test unit that he received, and others as well, and let us know just how long it took for the battery to die. But I guess that was too simple a test, and they would rather just keep playing with their scopes instead. They all knew that the batteries would ALWAYS get totally drained, in every single test case. So...
  Wishful thinking is all that I had ever seen from any his devices, unfortunately.

  However,  that does not imply that it's not possible, at least to some degree.

  One mans junk is another mans treasure:
  "The ultimate Joule Thief collection"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFB8Uwcknrg

[Pirate88179]

Awesome, thanks!

You are welcome.  Some site navigation advice in case you don't know it.  If you look at the top of the page, just under the Overunity logo, you will see buttons labeled...

Home   Community   Help   Search...etc.

Click on the Community button and then scroll down to the Joule Thief topic area  (Or any of the other topic areas that might interest you) and Click Joule Thief.  You will then see 4 pages of JT topics.  (Each page has a lot of topic areas each)  This topic you are in here is the original JT topic but, there are many other very good ones as well.

I hope this helps.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

  TK:
  From what we've seen. there is NO OU from a simple iron powder Joule Thief circuit.
Although some guys may have made some JTs that may be OU, or self charging, like the ones the Kooler had running for 5 months, using "special diodes". 

  What I did not like, is someone stating for years that his device is working with more output than is being provided by the input. To me this is somewhat demented.
I think that he may have given up by now... However, he does post on OUR forum though, in a locked thread, as too many people got on his case.
   I had ask him to provide proof that his JT would not drain a AA or a charged cap.
I asked Stefan to try it also on the test unit that he received, and others as well, and let us know just how long it took for the battery to die. But I guess that was too simple a test, and they would rather just keep playing with their scopes instead. They all knew that the batteries would ALWAYS get totally drained, in every single test case. So...
  Wishful thinking is all that I had ever seen from any his devices, unfortunately.

  However,  that does not imply that it's not possible, at least to some degree.

  One mans junk is another mans treasure:
  "The ultimate Joule Thief collection"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFB8Uwcknrg

Nick:

I don't disagree with you at all here.  I, for one, have never claimed the JT circuit to be OU.  Lawrence, on the other hand, has done so for a long time now.  Yes, this pissed off a lot of folks...I can see why.  He took a lot of abuse for his "Lead Out" theory when he first brought it to this forum.  As a matter of fact, there is a chapter in his book about us here on OU.com speaking of this very thing.  (Yes, he has written a book about all of this)

http://www.energyfromair.com/innovation/

No names but it mentions some real abuse he took because we did not believe, or could understand, his theory.  (I still don't believe it)

I just admire the way he stuck to it all these years...no matter what.  That is what I admire.  You don't see much of that these days it seems.

I will check out the link you posted for the JT.

Bill

[4Lynx4]

You are welcome.  Some site navigation advice in case you don't know it.  If you look at the top of the page, just under the Overunity logo, you will see buttons labeled...

Home   Community   Help   Search...etc.

Click on the Community button and then scroll down to the Joule Thief topic area  (Or any of the other topic areas that might interest you) and Click Joule Thief.  You will then see 4 pages of JT topics.  (Each page has a lot of topic areas each)  This topic you are in here is the original JT topic but, there are many other very good ones as well.

I hope this helps.

Bill

Thanks, appreciate it 
I've bookmarked it, http://www.overunity.com/6942/joule-thief-circuit-diagrams-etc/ , but as it's locked it will eventually find it's way to page 2 so if it was pinned then noobs like myself could find it more easily.......?

Or maybe this has been asked before 

/JM2C 

[Pirate88179]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKsd6kyZ-I


"Self-runner Oscillator, or Joule Thief"   (Video title)

This was posted on Youtube by someone I subscribe to.  Personally, i think it is the supercaps that are running the circuit, but he claims it runs for 3 days and, it does appear that he is feeding back at least some of the energy.  Take from it what you will.


Bill