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Why does mass slow time?

Started by gravityblock, November 25, 2008, 05:31:30 AM

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Overmind

Quote from: gravityblock on July 30, 2009, 07:00:09 AM
If the atomic clock in a spacecraft is slowing down, then the entire system or spacecraft is slowing down at the same rate that is representative of the atomic clock.
That is totally incorrect. A clock reading means nothing (even for atomic clocks) if the respective clock is not totally isolated from any possible field or interference.

Quote from: gravityblock on July 30, 2009, 07:00:09 AM
I could say the same thing regarding length contraction.  It is not the length that is affected, but your tool which you measure it with.
Depends on the tool. A tool that uses length or light to do the measure will be influenced, yes, just like it was with speed of light experiments. A tool that uses something different, will not be influenced, therefore it will correctly measure.
You cannot use atomic clocks to correctly/accurately measure time differences because their functionality is influenced by the overlaping fields. The so called observation that time is faster or slower is one of the many possible interpretations and is not by far the most simple or most logical of them all.

Relativity and quantum physics fail to explain a very large number of things related to the matter and energy, therefore postulating and inventing something just because there has to be soemthing there that gives the observed effect (having no mathematical validation for the invented stuff).
But an objecive theory could explain a lot of the unknowns of the current physics an have the theoretical support while concuring with the already conducted and interpreted experiments.
So from a relative p.o.v.:
- things are different for each observer (FAIL: if each one observes differently, which observation is real ?)
- a lot of basic elements of the current physics cannot be explained (I can give plenty of examples)
- a theory of everything is not possible
- some key elements of important ecuations were nullified (without demonstrating that the respective elements are always null)
- some calculations are adapted to suit miss-interpreted observations (like Einstein did with time)
- 't' is variable, 'c' is constant (FAIL: already proven variable)

From an objective p.o.v.:
- universallity prevails (the observer's p.o.v. is irrelevant and at most localized)
- almost if not everything in the current physics can be explained
- a total theory (unified theory) is possible (all fields can be unified if you get back to the roots of physics)
- some key elements of important ecuations were re-introduced (enableing mathematical confirmations of the physics behind them)
- calculations are not adapted but compared with different interpretations of observations (when direct observations are possible)
- 't' is constant (it was defined so after all), 'c' is variable (confirmed experimentally)

gravityblock

Quote from: Overmind on July 30, 2009, 10:58:07 AM
That is totally incorrect. A clock reading means nothing (even for atomic clocks) if the respective clock is not totally isolated from any possible field or interference.

The amount of aether in a system determines how fast or slow the atoms are oscillating.  Anything that has the ability to disturb the aether can interfere with the atomic clocks which measures how much time has passed by the number of oscillations.  If the respective clock was totally isolated from any possible field or interference of the aether within that system, then of course it would not slow or speed up.

Time is the aether.  The aether permeates all space.  A large mass causes a displacement of this aether around it, which causes a Time gradient around the mass due to the disturbances in the aether.  Mass follows the path of least resistance, which is the path of least Time.  A large mass will have less aether than a smaller mass which will cause the atoms to tick at a slower rate than the smaller mass, thus Time is running slower for the larger mass.

If all of the atoms in your body is ticking or oscillating at a very slow rate, then it may take you several years to read this post.  If they are ticking at a very fast rate, then it may take you a minute to read this post.  It is irrelevant weather the atoms in your body are ticking at a slower rate due to interference or not, the result will be the same, which is a change in the rate at which things can occur or at the rate which Time ticks in that system.  The amount of aether in a system determines the rate at which things can occur, which is Time or energy.

Time is the aether.  Time is energy.


GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Overmind

Basic particle oscillation rate does not influence time. If it would, that would mean a blue laser beam would have different speed then a red laser beam because of the different rates of the oscillations of the photons that compose them.

gravityblock

Quote from: Overmind on August 27, 2009, 07:10:14 AM
Basic particle oscillation rate does not influence time. If it would, that would mean a blue laser beam would have different speed then a red laser beam because of the different rates of the oscillations of the photons that compose them.

Exactly, the same speed with different rates of oscillations means Time is not ticking the same.  If Time did tick at the same rate for the different oscillations of the photons in a laser, then they would have different speeds.

A gamma ray has more energy than a radio wave, but yet they travel at the same speed, this is due to the photons of the gamma rays ticking at a slower rate, thus it takes more Time to cover the same distance of linear space due to the oscillations of the photons.


GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

newbie123

Quote from: Overmind on July 30, 2009, 10:58:07 AM
'c' is variable (confirmed experimentally)

I've always thought the speed of light in vacuum is constant (even through different mediums, but propagation rate varies) ...  Are you referring to casmir effects on light?    Do you have a reference?   

Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.