Cavitation. The key to overunity?

[Grumpy]

Maybe we just need to pulse the water capacitor cell like Stan did with groups of short pulses followed by a break.   Looking at patent 4798661 -there isn't much more than that too it.

Another perspective is that I always see people placing the water capacitor tubes both in a tank of water.  It appears to me that the water is only between the walls of the tubes as there would be no action outside the tube as you want what is going on between the plates.

Not sure what stan is doing with the homemade resistor thing that he describe like a leaky capacitor - stainless plates separated by an insulator and then he adds conductive stuff to the insulator.  He calls it a current limiting resistor for "inhibiting electron leakage".
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EDIT:

Reading more of this patent and we see that Stan is bullshitting us on the resistor and it's purpose.  He is bleeding off excess energy.  

Anyone else see it?

The next expediency in the sequence for inhibiting electron leakage is the current inhibitor resister 60 as shown in FIGS. 1 and 5. The circuit 60 comprises a simple resistor of the commercial type or specially made for the particular application. The resistor is variable to provide fine tuning of the electron inhibiting. In that the each pair of plate exciters are connected separately, a resistor 60a xxx 60n is connected to each of the plates having the negative voltage connected therto. In this embodiment the inner plate of the exciters 50a xxx 50n. In that the inner plate had been normally connected to ground, the resistive element is now connected between the inner plate and ground.

As known in electrical art the resistor will provide a complete block to electron leakage--current flow. However, since the resistor 60 is connected from ground-to-ground there is no real affect on the voltage; and since there is no connection with the positive side there is no voltage drop.

The electron leakage resistor will again raise the upper limit of 8.5 volts amplitude before breakdown as shown at L-5 of FIG. 8. In the generation of the hydrogen and oxygen gasses to an infinite limit, as yet not fully appreciated, the upper level of amplitude of the voltage is removed with the utilization of the electron inhibitor of FIG. 7.

You do not need plates and a partially conducting insulator to block electron leakage.  He is dumping the excess lest the water go off - which might hurt - this palte resistor thing is to bleed off his "universal energy".  If he does not, the water will only hold so much of it and then it will be like he set off his gtnt right inside his water cap - ouch!   

I bet it scared the crap out of him when he popped a few off before he found out what was going on - LOL!

I have heard what I think was this sort of thing going off - very loud cracking pop - scared me good as was totally unexpected.

I got you now Stan. 

[Grumpy]

Oh Grumpy, what am I going to do with you. What do you mean you can't watch videos?

Water resistor is used to prevent amp flow. Since the water is pure, then electrons can't transfer but voltage can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7lL6HW7Ydg

No YouTube for me: dial-up at home - video sites blocked at work.

In patent 4,798,661 - part numbers "60a xxx 60n" and fig 7 is the cross-section of the resistive element.

The "resistor" is two plates with an insulator between and he says he added conductive stuff to the insulator (epoxy?) - this makes a leaky capacitor.  See, this leaky capacitor will leak different types of current to ground where they are safely dissipated.  If not, and you allow too much energy to build up, it will eventually balance itself.

In this embodiment of the current inhibitor connected to the inner plate having the negative voltage applied thereto, comprises a stainless steel sandwich 70/74 with a resistive material there between. The stainless steel is a poor conductive material and hence will restrict to some extent the electron flow. Other poor conductive material may be utilized in lieu of the stainless steel. The electron inhibitor 70/74 is connected in the same manner as resistor 60--between the inner plate having the negative potential connected to it and ground.

Can't use magnetic material - he does not mention this directly but he says the plates are stainless, which can be non-magnetic.  If you use a magnetic material then the excess energy will create eddy currents and a lot of heat - the excess may not bleed off any more and boom.

Stan was a great BS-er.  Must have taken him months to describe things so colorfully.

When operating, only a little bit of bubbly will come off - the "real deal" will be there though.  When you set the "real deal" off, you get one hell of a cavitation - called a detonation.  This ain't ordinary gas - this has some "kung pow" to it.

It is probable that the engine will run better after some use of the Meyer's cell as it becomes saturated with the gas.  Might even be a little eratic at first.

I bet the water coming out of Meyer's exhaust was far less than there should have been with HHO or conventional electro-gas.  anyone got the poop on that detail?  I mean Meyer's didn't have a faucet running at the tailpipe.

Buzz, whatcha think?

[ramset]

ON vids
Public library ,university ?
Chet

[Grumpy]

I can view vids, just not on video posting sites like YouTube.


My last half-dozen posts sketch out the details enough that any redneck with a few beers can "Git 'er Dun".  May take some time to get the pulsing right with the burst null burst null stuff.  Might be easier than we think.

Important part is that cavitation does play a role and water is just a tool - not the sole source.  Glycerine would probably work - just not nearly as well.

[ramset]

Buzz
Nice build skills[on your Thane mini replica] looks MINT!!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts gentlemen
I feel [as I should] absolutely privileged to listen in on your discusion
Chet