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Cavitation. The key to overunity?

Started by Pirate88179, November 29, 2008, 10:50:09 AM

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fritz

A merry Christmas to you all,

Even if I have not the time right now to follow this thread,
I´m quite happy that you´re on cavitation issues.
Life on earth (effective and performant as is) relies on the specific properties of water. Cavitation is just one interesting issue.

rgds.

BEP

Please forgive me if my search is faulty.

Where is it shown that the final stage of cavitation has any more energy in it than the initial step in cavitation?

There is no doubt cavitation can provide results indicating extremely high energy during the rebound portion but to my understanding that rebound is the same amount of energy in a much shorter time span.
With that thought cavitation is equivalent to many other interesting aspects of this research like BEMF and capacitive discharge. None of those provide more energy than what was put in the circuit. It just concentrates that same energy (with the normal losses) into a much shorter time span.

If I am completely wrong then please point me to something I can try on the bench.

Thanks!


Grumpy

Quote from: BEP on December 24, 2008, 09:56:05 PM
Please forgive me if my search is faulty.

Where is it shown that the final stage of cavitation has any more energy in it than the initial step in cavitation?

There is no doubt cavitation can provide results indicating extremely high energy during the rebound portion but to my understanding that rebound is the same amount of energy in a much shorter time span.
With that thought cavitation is equivalent to many other interesting aspects of this research like BEMF and capacitive discharge. None of those provide more energy than what was put in the circuit. It just concentrates that same energy (with the normal losses) into a much shorter time span.

If I am completely wrong then please point me to something I can try on the bench.

Thanks!

Exploding wire experiments:

Compression is always several orders of magnitude larger (i.e. has more energy) than decompression.

Exploding a wire with the negative terminal will not produce near the results of using the positive terminal - both with capacitor discharge as energy source.

I can quote some references if you want them.
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spinner

Quote from: Grumpy on December 25, 2008, 02:43:43 AM
Exploding wire experiments:

Compression is always several orders of magnitude larger (i.e. has more energy) than decompression.

Exploding a wire with the negative terminal will not produce near the results of using the positive terminal - both with capacitor discharge as energy source.

I can quote some references if you want them.

If the compression and decompression are made by the same process in a cyclical manner (e.g. an IC engine), than your claim means perpetual motion. Unbalance is the key, no?

Exploding a wire? Like shorting a source (battery, cap,..) with a piece of wire? Risky business...
And a wire point connected to the negative explodes more violently? Now, why is that?
Please, do provide some reference.
"Ex nihilo nihil"

Grumpy

Loner

The purpose of this paper is to avoid that problem.

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IF the universe is perpetual - it must have an inherent mechanism that allows it to keep on going forever.

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