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Peter Sumaruck's "Zero Amp Tech" a Rotoverter?

Started by sterlinga, November 30, 2008, 03:33:44 AM

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mscoffman

Quote from: pix on December 02, 2008, 06:18:54 PM
Hi all,
2HP el. motor running without load- doesn't mean it takes 2HP load.Induction el. motor without a load takes minimum current,2HP means it is capable to give such load-but then currents are much bigger.It is so simple.
On the video I would rather like to see on the clamp ammeter current IN, current OUT.
But the very BASIC error is to calculate output load as 7,5 HP when 3 el.motors with such name plate RATED power are running without load!
Regards,
pix

@pix

I agree with what you are saying. A motor rotor spinning without load indicates nothing
other then there is some kind of current flowing in the circuit. People don't understand
that the load proportional power usage of a motor is a benefit of existing motor design, but
also a tradeoff. Single operating point efficiency is compromised to obtain the
overall power to load proportionality. Without this, net inefficiency of a motor
in the average situation will increase.

@wattsup

I hear what you are saying about generators, on the other hand in this day and age
we need to start testing for what we really want to see...which is free energy away
from the device under test. If we demand people clearly demonstrate this then we
will block the shenanigans and the volume of devices we have to look at, will drop.
Don't force me to use my potentially faulty imagination on a questionable device,
when testing the device for what we really want to see is relatively easy.

:S:MarkSCoffman


pix

Quote@pix

I agree with what you are saying. A motor rotor spinning without load indicates nothing
other then there is some kind of current flowing in the circuit. People don't understand
that the load proportional power usage of a motor is a benefit of existing motor design, but
also a tradeoff. Single operating point efficiency is compromised to obtain the
overall power to load proportionality. Without this, net inefficiency of a motor
in the average situation will increase.

Exactly,
In such a case efficiency is like normal transformer minus energy losses on the gap between stator and rotor and the losses on velocity slip between rotating magnetic field and rotating rotor.
Anyway,on the video You could HEAR  :), when magic box connected genset gets it.
Regards,
Pix

ashtweth_nihilisti

@ watts

Hi mate.

Yes its certainly quiet a bit of power there,  my suggestion was only to silence all the in between stuff  ;). DC in and DC out, or a hydro meter on the battery with a load that size (looped).
We dont need FE demonstrated to the public, WE NEED IT VALIDATED TO THE PUBLIC. Then you have consumer awareness and demand (government cannot suppress it then).

Black light power did a TINY bit of this, but not enough. Ill send peter an email on Panacea's behalf :)
now my friend i did take a look, I would only comment on it if i built it, unlike most at this forum :). I say build it man, its worth finding out if that's the encouragement you need.
dont forget every thing you need to replicate the RV and apply the extraction to the VARS  is posted by me answering sterling above.

And yes i have seen an individual do it, he is not going to go public yet. i have my three phase trafo here and just getting the other stuff. That's a direct quote form him.
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm


ramset

That's the demo from sterlinga's university trip

Chet
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