Air Buoyancy Machine

[brian334]

M,
At the bottom how much energy does it take to stop a falling tank?
Answer is none.

At the top how much energy does it take for water pressure to push the piston in?
Answer is none.

[mondrasek]

M,
At the bottom how much energy does it take to stop a falling tank?
Answer is none.

I agree.

But does stopping the falling tank reconfigure it from heavier to lighter?
Answer is no.

The energy needed to reconfigure the tank as it is stopped is supposed to come from the inertia of your internal weight.  That issue was discussed ad nauseum in your previous thread on this subject.

M.

[mscoffman]

M,
At the bottom how much energy does it take to stop a falling tank?
Answer is none.

At the top how much energy does it take for water pressure to push the piston in?
Answer is none.

@brian334

Most of these buoyancy devices would work at 100% efficiency with an energy gain of 1.
because they substitute hydraulics for mechanical levers. The problem is that there is
friction between moving parts and parts moving in fluid and this will cause the momentum
of the device to be dissipated. OK...now show me where energy gain >1. is supposed to
come from in a device that simplifies to a mechanical lever? Some device use bubbles
for shields and stuff and might conceivably work, but show me in a lever device where
the the long term unbalanced gain is?

:S:MarkSCoffman

[brian334]

M.
Thank you for your post, your post is the first rational comment I have gotten since I started this topic.
Phase change is critical to any invention like this working, so lets go over each phase.

Phase 1. The tanks with the 65 Lb. weight in them are heavier than the liquid they displace and will sink. The tanks fall in a continuous column greatly reducing the drag with the water. The tanks accelerate as they fall due to the force of gravity. The 65 lb. weight builds momentum as it falls.

Phase 2. In phase 2 the tanks expand becoming lighter than the liquid they displace and will float up doing work. How does this happen?
At the bottom the free falling tanks with the 65 lb weight in them are abruptly stopped, the 65lb weight keeps going. The momentum of the 65 lb weight is the force that expands the tank.  To see a drawing of the tank please visit my website http://bsandler.com
Click on the tab at the top of the page marked GRAVITY MACHINE # 2

Phase 3. The tanks are lighter than the liquid they displace and will float up doing work.

Phase 4. In phase 4 the tanks shrink and become heavier than the liquid they displace ready for the next cycle. How does this happen?
The external water pressure pushes the extended piston back into the tank.
No energy is used by the machine to push the piston back in.

[PhiScience]

@brian334

I have looked at your plans on your website and have one question.

Were do you get the gas from?

Because hydraulic and pneumatic systems cannot operate in a closed system, the gas can only do work once than it will go neutral. You must continually add more gas and exhaust backpressure to keep it going.