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Promising New Economic System On Horizon

Started by Cap-Z-ro, December 04, 2008, 04:05:34 PM

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Cap-Z-ro


In essence this newly proposed economic plan is a barter system.

Regards...


Thaelin

Hey Cap:
   When the monetary shit hits the fan, that is exactly what will happen. People that
have no money will trade goods for goods, services for good, goods for services, etc.
A cord of wood will always be a cord of wood. Like shares of stock in a company. If
it goes under, its worthless paper. But at least you can start a fire with it, if you have
something to burn that is.

thaelin

CrazyEwok

employ a barter system... Spoken like someone who has never actually saved for anything in their life... Your barter system will fall flat on its face as there will be no tracability of transactions therefore no business will pre pay for anything so all international sale will end... Unless you think you can send a sea container full of chickens to the Ferrari plant for your new car? Also how will you repay any interest??? what will you borrow to barter for that chicken your family needs to eat to survive because your too damn lazy to do anything but sit on your butt... how will you pay for your electricity??? how will you pay for your internet??? chickens pigs and corn only pay for so much then it becomes decomposed rubbish... you will be spending all day down the market trying to "score a good deal" on selling your kids because you can't trade your crappy home made pots for food to feed them... Hmmm now we see your barter system falling to a halt... Currency is a universal bartering system that has no expiry date on your money. Best you stop channeling your efforts into blaming a standardization that is there to make your life easier as it is something that everyone knows of and get a second job or better yet some more qualifacations so you can earn more currency. Credit is your killer not currency...

Bob Smith

I think a change of heart is what is really most needed, at local, national and globalized levels. The goods of the earth were created to be shared by all.  Acquisition of wealth has become more important than making sure our neighbour at home or in a poor country has enough shelter, food and education. The current economic system is being run to the benefit of a minority. This fundamental flaw of greed is a festering wound that is consuming it, and its failure is imminent. Can we develop communities where the most vulnerable have an honoured place in our midst, and their dignity and needs are protected?  If we can do this, perhaps we can avoid capitalism's destructive exhaltation of the individual (to the neglect of the common good) and communism's promotion of the collective (which crushes the dignity of the individual). Both systems only ever benefitted a minority.  If and when the current economic system fails, will we be there to help one another through, and to call our politicians to re-build a more humane world? If enough of us believed this, perhaps even the most repressive system would not be able to restrain true human solidarity. But for this to happen, perhaps the stranglehold of the current greed-based economy needs to lose its grip on our individualized and divided lives.  Can we be there for one another if and when it happens?

magkor

Social Viability? Guaranteed scam, if you ask me. The never-ending growth paradigm is a sham. Anyone who knows anything about complex systems, chaos theory and simple history knows this. Add in carrying capacity of the planet and that we are now in overshoot with THE lynch pin energy source at peak production as of now and you're looking at a whole lot of trouble.

We need a steady-state/barter economy built renewably with widely distributed systems, not hugely complex mega-systems that leave individuals hostage to TPTB. Power generation, food...

We also need to live in smaller groups and NEVER AGAIN give up our sovereignty. Every system that allows a few to rule the many always becomes a nightmare for the many. One person, one vote. If it's not worth my time to discuss with my neighbors and reach a decision, then it's not needed.

The federal government should be limited to EXACTLY what the Constitution says, and no standing army except in wartime. I have no problem with every citizen being trained, but it can be done via the Nat. Guard, and organized for war time quickly enough with plans always at the ready and command structures in place. But the vast majority of the soldiers should be home.

And this militia then is also ready for attacks from within, like BuCheney...

Etc.

Cheers