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Homopolar Generators (N-Machine) by Bruce de Palma

Started by dtaker, December 01, 2005, 02:55:54 AM

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Magluvin

Quote from: gravityblock on March 15, 2015, 11:40:07 AM

When the top contact is in the middle, then there is an equal current flowing over each of the poles inducing an equal force on both sides of the magnet and it will roll straight forward without making a turn.


However, if the top contact is off center, then there will be more current flowing over one of the poles than the other inducing an unequal force on each side of the magnet, and it will roll forward and make a turn.


IMO, a diametrical configuration may be the back door we have all been looking for.   : )


I can't stress enough how big of a discovery this may be!   Great job Mags!


Gravityblock

That all could be the case. But I was thinking that since the magnet itself is very conductive, just like the nickle coating, the current isnt just flowing through the coating, but the magnet as a whole. And should be the same effect. Most of the current will take the shortest path through the whole. Heck, there may be a particular path that the current flows through the mag due to the existing field in the mag.

There may be more flowing through the outer shell.  I suppose one could remove the nickle from the pole faces and just leave the perimeter coating and do a comparison to a fully coated mag. ;)

Mags


Magluvin

Been thinking on this more...

There is a possibility that the magnets field causes electrons to flow in a particular pattern in the foil around where the magnet sits. ???

I did a suspended test of the magnets with connections at the top and bottom of the magnet, basically a pendulum. The magnet did not move, even with high voltage discharges from a precharged cap. 

And the wire touching the top of the magnet could be in any orientation for basically the same effect each time. So the only thing left is what is happening in the foil. I was able to make the input connection to the foil at any side or corner, but the mag would move the same direction relative to pole positions and polarity of input. But the foil around the magnet is definitely influenced by the field of the mag, and that influence can affect what path the electrons will move in the area where the magnet sits. This all possibly producing push and pull of the magnet due to the odd fields developed in the foil from current flowing in controlled paths to the bottom magnet connection to the foil. ;)

Mags

Magluvin

Lol. And if that is the case, then the magnetic film should be laying on top of the foil instead of around the magnet.  I suppose a hole in the film to let the mag make contact with the foil. Or better yet, have the film under the foil, no hole needed, and have it on a plexy or glass panel, then invert the whole thing to see the bottom. The magnet can be just mounted in place without moving, we just want to see the change in fields as current flows through the foil to the mag vs no current. ;D


Mags


gravityblock

Quote from: Magluvin on March 15, 2015, 06:35:15 PM

I did a suspended test of the magnets with connections at the top and bottom of the magnet, basically a pendulum. The magnet did not move, even with high voltage discharges from a precharged cap. 



Were both connections firmly attached to the magnet in order to move with it, or did you make both connections by hand, so the magnet would be free to move away from the connections?


Thanks,


Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Magluvin

Solid connections using a small tie wrap.  And being there wasnt even a jiggle, then the magnets ability to be 'able' to roll on the foil tells me that the foil was most likely having some force pushing it back as the mag pushes forward, except the foil was on a fixed platform so only the mag moved.

So here would be another test. Set the mag on the foil. and somehow have the wire that was toughing the top of the mag, touch the foil from underneath and the mag may roll away from center. Maybe not being the connection when using the mag moves with the mag.

Mags