How to, Ultrasonic humidifier - Will it help water arc experiments????

[djzissis]

Hello everybody!!

As discussed in other topics from people trying and making plasma arc, and water explosions (maybe implosions) and as referred to the Graneau experiments, we expect that water cold fog should be the best thing we need for plasma. Some thing the fog to be better than steam.

What we need, is a hi-end ultrasonic humidifier, that can give us the needed amount of fog, to power an engine.
Of course we can go to a store and buy a very good one, but for those (including me) who can't afford such an amount of 150$ - 200$ we can make one.

So......

1st. What is an ultrasonic humidifier?

source: wikipedia

Ultrasonic Humidifier â€" A metal diaphragm vibrating at an ultrasonic frequency creates water droplets that silently exit the humidifier in the form of a cool fog. Ultrasonic Humidifiers should be cleaned regularly to avoid bacterial contamination which may be projected into the air.

Nothing more than piezo-electric (ceramic) discs, that vibrate in a frequency at something like 1.7 MHz (far beyond what we humans can hear at 20,000 Hz), and cause water to break up into small molecules which hang in the air - and thus, misty fog!!

piezoelectric discs, what is it?
From what I know this is nothing more than a capacitor. See picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/SchemaPiezo.gif

Now I am popping the question.: Can we make a capacitor like this that can dive underwater, and an oscillator to vibrate it at 1.7MHz??

Any idea is welcomed.!!!!
This may help us all.

Regards,
Zissis

[pese]

humitider that sucs up to 1 ltr water  /hour to priduce Vapor cost less the 50 Euros
230V AC (on power cord) or internal  with low voltages DC.

GP

[djzissis]

Hello friend!!

I know.... But we need much much more to power an engine with a humidifier.
We need to make a very very strong one, in the lowest cost we can get.


Thanks for the response,
Zissis

[Yucca]

Hi,

Peses 1litre per hour mist maker sounds quite cheap. And 1 litre water use per hour is quite a strong unit.

Maybe you could build a large mist making array with these components, whether it would be cheaper I don´t know?

Transducers:
http://search.stores.ebay.com/PIEZO-LASERS-MEDICAL-AND-MORE_mist_W0QQfciZ4QQfclZ4QQfsnZPIEQ5AOQ20LASERSQ20MEDICALQ20ANDQ20MOREQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsubZ2QQsaselZ36168551QQsofpZ0

Easy Sig Gen:
http://www.linear.com/pc/productDetail.jsp?navId=H0,C1,C1010,C1096,P2069

Drive the transducer using N-channel FET whose gate is driven by the sig gen.

Yucca.

[djzissis]

Hi,

Peses 1litre per hour mist maker sounds quite cheap. And 1 litre water use per hour is quite a strong unit.

Maybe you could build a large mist making array with these components, whether it would be cheaper I don´t know?

Transducers:
http://search.stores.ebay.com/PIEZO-LASERS-MEDICAL-AND-MORE_mist_W0QQfciZ4QQfclZ4QQfsnZPIEQ5AOQ20LASERSQ20MEDICALQ20ANDQ20MOREQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsubZ2QQsaselZ36168551QQsofpZ0

Easy Sig Gen:
http://www.linear.com/pc/productDetail.jsp?navId=H0,C1,C1010,C1096,P2069

Drive the transducer using N-channel FET whose gate is driven by the sig gen.

Yucca.

Very very useful Yucca

Thank you very much for those links!!

They are what I exactly needed!!

zissis