GERMAN SCIENTISTS PROVES CHEMTRAILS

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#1 Vid ....was FIRST posted on youtube by USAFFEKC1O, and he posted it as a joke. TankerEnemy took it and those itialians possibly misunderstood it (translation) , and re-posted the now viral video.
USAFFEKC1O commented on his own video, saying, "You guys who keep saying “TOO LATE” need to think before you open your mouth…I don’t care that the videos are still out there and going viral. THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE PRANK!!!! …for all of you chemtrail idiots to get all excited as if these videos are the holy grail of chemtrail videos and for me and my friends to laugh at you while you spread them. The more passionate you guys are about this, the more entertaining it is for those of us who live in the real world. Keep on spreading!!"
If you listen to the pilots in the chase plane, they are laughing and sarcastically joking about messing with all the chemtrailers out there on youtube, by posting the video.

#2...forum thread...what are you referring to ?

#3 Photo ...dumping fuel. Some plane's fuel dump tubes are at the tip of the wings, but a few are closer in.
Here is the plane...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-6_Mercury
There is external equipment at this Navy plane's wing tips (ESM/SATCOM), therefore the fuel dump tubes were moved in closer.


#4 Google image...bad link, but I found it.....here's the original photo...
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA%20-%20Air%20Force/Boeing%20NKC-135A%20Stratotanker%20%28717-100%29/0351902/L/&width=667&height=1012&sok=&photo_nr=3&prev_id=0949608&next_id=0069887
It's a water spraying test rig used for testing a plane's response to icing during flight.
Wanna be surprised ?? see....
https://www.safaq.hq.af.mil/news/march04/raptor.html
and here...
http://consci.s3.amazonaws.com//wp-content/uploads/8804-l.jpg
and
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA%20-%20Air%20Force/Boeing%20NKC-135A%20Stratotanker%20%28717-100%29/0069876/L
and here at an air show (they're displaying it....ohh, so secret)
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA%20-%20Air%20Force/Boeing%20NKC-135A%20Stratotanker%20%28717-100%29/0069877/L
and
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Boeing-NKC-135A-Stratotanker/0069886/&sid=c6a629fd83478508d4b9552645fea0d9
....etc....


#5 Image.....is a normal contrail coming from the (2) engines. It is NOT coming from the tail. There is always a lag behind the engines before a contrail is formed.....the heat of the engines prevents the water vapor from freezing for a split second. You will see this effect in every contrail, on every plane.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Virgin-Atlantic-Airways/Airbus-A340-642/0690281/L/

#6 Is of an atmospheric research plane. See the tubes pointed forward ?...why ?
Here are a few other photos of it...
http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/chemtrailplaneonground3forum.jpg
http://consci.s3.amazonaws.com//wp-content/uploads/chemtrailplaneonground1forum.jpg
In fact, this plane is so non-secret, there are more...
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Grumman-G-159-Gulfstream/0176107/L/&sid=d1edf50b07d73c8bfe332479bdce5ed3
and
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5840370
and
http://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N701BN
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw2513/4703512571/
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw2513/4703443847/in/photostream/
and
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eol.ucar.edu/projects/vocals/logistics_support/telecon/g1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.eol.ucar.edu/projects/vocals/logistics_support/telecon/rex_dip_note.html&usg=__I1HQ7ZccjMb56SEZH-Cj8FCkR-I=&h=960&w=1200&sz=207&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=dmQB__K3fAT4KM:&tbnh=129&tbnw=181&prev=/images%3Fq%3DN701BN%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Ds%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D851%26tbs%3Disch:1%26prmd%3Div&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=133&vpy=72&dur=1317&hovh=201&hovw=251&tx=154&ty=119&ei=U6X0TNuqNYnAsAPq_ZCYDA&oei=U6X0TNuqNYnAsAPq_ZCYDA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0
....etc....

All of these are easily explained as not chemtrail sprayers.
You have shown me examples of sprayers coming from all places on a plane.
I have shown you multiple sources, as why you are mistaken.
But why do we most often see contrails coming from the engines ? (like 99% of the time) ?
If this is happening all the time, around the world....why nearly all the time, are contrails emanating from the engines ?

Should I just look at your photos....then look at a speck, @ 29,000 feet in the sky....and forget the "how and why" as to how they might or might-not be connected ?  Wouldn't you expect a bit more savvy educational effort in your strive to convince?
If you were the teacher, and the student asked "why?"....wouldn't that make him a worthy student ?

A previous poster here claimed to witness planes making u-turns and circles in the skies all the time, almost every day. When I asked for him to photograph this, he scoffed, and disappeared. Many claim "they see planes making u-turns all the time"....but I have yet to see but a few pictures across the net, but with hundreds of claims that they do it all the time.

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Yes they can use the engines too, the modern day jet engine uses a air chamber around the engine to muffle the sound of the engine.
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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6Y-NXZmDcxU/SXOcJpfdvoI/AAAAAAAACTU/MlwNGr0LKzI/s400/chemtrails%2B23.jpg&imgrefurl=http://arcticcompass.blogspot.com/2009/01/chemtrails.html&usg=__6rJdLz91dBvIP1HX1hRtydrydkQ=&h=317&w=396&sz=13&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=nYyzz3V7QgEYOM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchemtrails%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26biw%3D1920%26bih%3D918%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=911&vpy=483&dur=1021&hovh=201&hovw=251&tx=145&ty=102&ei=Y8f0TI2tIcG88gb20NjIBw&oei=Y8f0TI2tIcG88gb20NjIBw&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=67&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0

Perfect example here and chemical reactions are faster and more complete in a high energy environment.

If one of these planes are dumping fuel it's worse than a chemtrail. Look up how dangerous the additives for modern jet fuel are. Total carcinogen jet fuel nightmare. You are very good at trying to explain this away. Why don't you explain away all the patents to produce chemtrails? Explain it to all the people that only need to look up and watch them doing this crap.

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If one of these planes are dumping fuel it's worse than a chemtrail. Look up how dangerous the additives for modern jet fuel are. Total carcinogen jet fuel nightmare. You are very good at trying to explain this away. Why don't you explain away all the patents to produce chemtrails? Explain it to all the people that only need to look up and watch them doing this crap.

Dumping jet fuel is not good in any argument. But it is so rare that it happens. Ever seen or smell someone painting their car outside ? ...nearly as toxic (or more), and happens much more often. Other ground based industries are bigger constant polluters than planes occasionally dumping fuel.

The patents....publishing a patent does not mean the patent is currently in use, it just means that the idea belongs to a certain individual or company. I like to go on to Google Patents, and look at all the crazy/funny ideas people come up with. I've seen teleportation patents.....if those actually worked, and were being currently used, the world would be a different place.
And the patents are public...they're not hiding any secrets.

I don't think it's enough to "only look up" and assume what you see is something sinister....even if you don't trust the government. Heck, I don't trust the government on many issues.
But in this case, the real evidence is just not there. The info suggested frankly does not make sense......and very far fetched.

I am not good at "explaining away chemtrails". It's the lack of proof that explains itself away.
Anyone could do the research on those photos above, and reach the same conclusion that they are not chemtrail sprayers.
I wish more people would investigate further, before posting photos on blogs, and claiming that something "looks strange, therefor it's evil".

[raburgeson]

There is a regular flow chart for these (debunkers). It's aimed at humiliation and discrediting anyone deemed a threat to the lies. As you will notice photographs are always fake or Photoshoped. The person is misguided, lying or crazy. There's always some excuse. The main idea is to get the person running around in circles on the net trying to prove his point until he looks like a fool. He will either go to some bad information left by these well paid individuals or run away and not talk about the issue ever again. They prefer choice number two.

If you have a problem finding something on the net I urge you too learn how to use three basic tools for search engines. You might grumble and not want to do this but, - + and & will make your life much easier and bring you better results. Patents like the ones being discussed here only become visible if they feel a very great need to protect them. If you hear it on the news they have been doing it for at least a decade. Of course those that depend on the government are the first to follow.

I have to go do some reading to learn something myself this morning. I have to learn how to turn thumbnails into jpgs to save room on the site. Let me tell you the exact same flow chart is used against inventors. It's very important we find free energy. Let me tell you how important. Have you heard people say the world is overpopulated. That's total bunk. What the world is overpopulated with is bad technology. Right now industry we are using is locking up free oxygen in the atmosphere. Oil products are at the top of a long list. China will be the first to tell to we need clean abundant energy.

I saw news highlighted by Coast to Coast AM. The news article said they could change the atmosphere of the sun so it would reflect heat back to the surface. Later in the article they said they felt it was a good thing to do because it could work. Has anyone else in here read that article? Of course they deny they made the article but, they deny they made this clip. Google Hemp for Victory. People spent over 2 decades hunting this clip down. Once you have viewed it you will have no doubt who made it.

I took pictures just a bit ago to show you you can look up the four points of the compass and straight up and all there is is a blank of scum. Once I figure out how to basically use no space to show you I'll be back and I urge all members from the Northeastern US to report. They have whited out the sky here. Blue is not to be seen anywhere. Over the lake on the picture to the North there are dark gray stripes. I just want to show you if you can take a picture of the planes spraying you aren't officially spayed yet. There used to be a tourism ad on the radio claiming we get more sunny days than Florida. The last few years we have been at least getting 2 sunny days a month. Funny thing is the hunters that report that hunt in the Canadian far North report they aren't spraying to protect the ice that is so precious to them. Also it's reported that people that believe the warming tails have been making treks to the North Pole in winter time and find nights below -100 degrees F. That's an easy one to search for. What isn't easy to search for is what you need to beat the truth out of the US government. At first start you need the exact numbers and name of a document. You need more money than God and a decade for the courts and then if every T is crossed and every I is dotted and you have gotten passed the fact that the document is old enough to qualify and they can't prove it's a matter of National Security you might get them to release something. This something is usually covered in white out. Remember they had a decade to create false documents. If it can be found the German government years ago released the information that the chemtrail program is a fact. Makes me curious why there is a debate.

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