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[utilitarian]

All the backer has to do is have my diode array tested by a company to *guarantee* that it produces a DC voltage. I already know that it does, nearly 13 months of voltage measurements using over a dozen different voltage meters.

PL

Slow down, cowboy.  Producing DC voltage does not mean the device violates the 2nd Law.  A solar panel can do that without violating any laws.  So how do you propose to prove violation of 2nd Law?

And there is no way I am going to make any kind of wager without assurance that there is money on the other side for me to collect.  I do not doubt your earnestness, but you must understand that an offer to get backers does not exactly inspire confidence.  Backers have a funny way of pulling out when things go sour.  And, if you can easily get your hands on that kind of money, why haven't you monetized your invention yet with venture capital?  So maybe a smaller wager is best, say $5K.

But we can't move forward until there is an agreed-upon method of testing violation of 2nd Law.  Furthermore, the burden of proof of violation of 2nd Law must be on you.  I will not bear the burden of proving that your device does not violate it.

[PaulLowrance]

Hi,

If a scientist makes a claim, and someone says, "How do you know ... oh dark matter isn't causing the effect?"  then how does the scientist respond to that?  My point being, is that I can prove the diode array produces a DC voltage across a load, and I have tried, without success, to explain away this DC voltage from other effects, known effects. Various scientists have asked if it's explained by this or that, and I have explained how it is not. ... How can I say this ... I claim to have violated conventional physics, and so far no scientist (including myself) has show the mathematics and/or experiments that shows the diode array DC voltage is explained from another effect. For example, it is easy to suggest that the voltage is caused by macro scale temperature gradients on the diode array. I have done the math to test such a theory, and it doesn't work out. If the diode array was rotated around, then according to thermoelectric effect mathematics, the DC voltage would reverse. That simply has never happened in my experiments. Over the past 13 months I have rotated the diode array in various orientations, at countless locations from my lab, to the garage, to being buried 2 feet under the ground, to countless locations in urban and rural locations. The DC voltage polarity does not flip.

So what can I say. One cannot expect me to build a diode array *chip* anytime soon on a few hundred dollars that would cool down while under load. The problem with trying to get my present diode array to cool down is that there is far far far too much mass for the amount of produced power. I already went over such mathematics with another scientist who did not believe me. He soon discovered that it would take ages upon ages for the diodes too cool down *in* a perfect ideal closed system. So even if the diode array was contained inside a perfect closed system that reflected 100% of the blackbody radiation inside a perfect vacuum then the diode array would take centuries to cool down enough to detect the temp gradient. Is there some high-tech instrument that could detect the microscopic temp gradient produced by my diode array? Perhaps, I'd love to know of such a machine. A high density diode chip made of THz diodes (microscopic diodes) is required to produce a measurable temperature gradient.


PL

[utilitarian]

Hi,

If a scientist makes a claim, and someone says, "How do you know ... oh dark matter isn't causing the effect?"  then how does the scientist respond to that?  My point being, is that I can prove the diode array produces a DC voltage across a load, and I have tried, without success, to explain away this DC voltage from other effects, known effects. Various scientists have asked if it's explained by this or that, and I have explained how it is not. ... How can I say this ... I claim to have violated conventional physics, and so far no scientist (including myself) has show the mathematics and/or experiments that shows the diode array DC voltage is explained from another effect. For example, it is easy to suggest that the voltage is caused by macro scale temperature gradients on the diode array. I have done the math to test such a theory, and it doesn't work out. If the diode array was rotated around, then according to thermoelectric effect mathematics, the DC voltage would reverse. That simply has never happened in my experiments. Over the past 13 months I have rotated the diode array in various orientations, at countless locations from my lab, to the garage, to being buried 2 feet under the ground, to countless locations in urban and rural locations. The DC voltage polarity does not flip.

So what can I say. One cannot expect me to build a diode array *chip* anytime soon on a few hundred dollars that would cool down while under load. The problem with trying to get my present diode array to cool down is that there is far far far too much mass for the amount of produced power. I already went over such mathematics with another scientist who did not believe me. He soon discovered that it would take ages upon ages for the diodes too cool down *in* a perfect ideal closed system. So even if the diode array was contained inside a perfect closed system that reflected 100% of the blackbody radiation inside a perfect vacuum then the diode array would take centuries to cool down enough to detect the temp gradient. Is there some high-tech instrument that could detect the microscopic temp gradient produced by my diode array? Perhaps, I'd love to know of such a machine. A high density diode chip made of THz diodes (microscopic diodes) is required to produce a measurable temperature gradient.

PL

I don't expect you to build anything if the economics of the thing don't work out, but based on what you have said, it appears to me that you have a serious problem.  Compared to you, I am a layman in the subject, but I think that my question is the exact same question that the Randi Organization would ask you, and it is a fair one.  Can you prove that your device violates the 2nd law?

You are kind of dancing around and explaining why it is so hard to prove a violation, but that just gives the impression that you don't really know if there is a violation or not.  You are just giving yourself the benefit of the doubt.  That is not very scientific.

Look, if you claim your device generates electrical energy by capturing ambient thermal energy, then to prove a violation of the 2nd law, you must show that there is no transfer of heat from the hotter reservoir to the cooler reservoir.  Better, is there spontaneous flow of heat from cooler to hotter?  Come up with a way to prove that conclusively, and we have something to talk about.  Randi is going to want the same thing.

[PaulLowrance]

No, I am not dancing around.  I can prove that it produces a DC voltage across a load. A DC voltage across a load equates to power.  You are asking me to prove a negative, that it is not caused by other means.

This is too funny that the day has arrived when a *passive* diode array produces up to 0.2mV DC and conventional scientists tells me to prove that it violates conventional physics! LOL

Hello!!!! Do you think it's normal for diodes to produce 0.2mV DC inside an appropriate oil bath while inside 2 layers of metal shields in various rural locations???   

PL

[PaulLowrance]

Maybe I should just tell the world to go shove it and let you people continue polluting the planets air, destroying species, and the endless junk humanity is so good at. Hide your heads in your dirt holes while you dream up excuses to ignore the obvious.

PL