Martial Law

[jadaro2600]

I think that what most people worry about during the declaration of martial law is:
* The tyrannical unchecked abuses of authority figures as so graciously portrayed in almost every Hollywood movie since..Hollywood began creating movies.
* Rampant violence ..martial law causing it, or it causing martial law - and the ever paradoxical concept of peace attempting to come to that auto-exacerbating situation.
* Injustice - whether it's a lack of rights or impositions, such as slavery or the deliberate disenfranchisement of the people whereupon martial law is declared.
* General terror or uncertainty.  Not having any knowledge of a situation makes people prone to panic.  Having the military run around with guns makes the whole thing look like a mexican stand-off.

By practice and through history, when government declares this type of situation it is as if there's been a affirmation of unrest. As if to say that "There's going to be unrest; and there's going to be cooperation"... and polarity among the populace ensues whereby 'trash' is thrown out and 'treasures' are saved.  Consider the situation which occurred in Rwanda; there was escalation and then total civil war.

The confusion that takes place in martial law is determining  what's really happening.  If martial law is declared by a couping military - then it's automatically invalid - they're waging war on their own people and their declaration is void; all supporters are conspirators, they're the enemy they are so willing hunt and they're essentially the very thing the idea of martial law attempts to stop - hence why I call it an autoexacerbating paradox.

Declaration of martial law should inherently be temporal - posted this before, i'll quote myself here again;
Reply #9 on: December 31, 2008, 02:23:08 AM here - http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6428.msg147037#msg147037

Martial law is not a due process - it's an affirmation of a lack thereof.

Having said that, it stands to reason that there should be no permanence to martial law.  In fact, I believe that civility is a conspiring of like minded people to be civil, martial law is simply a situation where this civility has eroded to a point of having no defined 'due process' amongst people.

Looting, rampant violence, gross abuses of human rights, ...if martial law is enacted, which it arguably has been for a time now, then it should be used, spent, and discarded for the sake of remedying these grievances.  If there were ever a time to uphold the constitution, it's during martial law. After all, it's declared in order to protect the people, the people being the power, and the interaction between these people their civility - all of which constitute a declaration of ideals as a constitution; this constitution not to be trampled upon.

During the crisis, the real question that evolves is is it the insurrectors or the authority who's insurrecting?  And this is where the paradox begins.

When I see my neighbors dragged dead from their houses for having observed their constitution rights, I will no longer be a civil person...seeing as how civility is something upheld between people... I must not be in a civil situation; the only thing that I can hope to do is restore civility.  And having said that - not knowing how to restore civility means not knowing whether i'm being cooperative or if i'm insurrecting when it looks like a tyrant is couping or a tyrant is being overthrown.

A tyrant would use this paradox of fear to exacerbate the situation.  Terrorism is the artifice of tyranny, there is no doubt about it.

Be civil.  There's no doubt, that through history, martial law has become a flotsam of injustice for people.

Does anyone have a link to the laws that we're supposed to abide by during martial law?  I can't rightly follow them if there are none - the general idea though seems to be to bend over and cope like a soldier - which i don't have to huge a problem with i'f i'm treated with respect; the biggest problem I have is not being utilized efficiently.

Time and time again, i've asked if when or if I join the armed forces, if I'll get a job in the service utilizing my current life skills, and the answer is consistently "No, you'll go and do what you're told, it may just so happen that you do get to use your skills."

...and this is the huge foulup that US military service has become.  When they need cannon fodder, they'll come looking for it.  The next savior could die in the service, or he/she could be gunned down during race riots.

[hartiberlin]

I think there are still peaceful ways to change society to make ita better world,
especially via free energy  devices.

Then surely soon the money system will change too automatically
and society will get less greedy.

So please don´t spread violence or hate as it only causes more violence and hate.

Many thanks for your understanding.

Regards, Stefan.

[jadaro2600]

I think there are still peaceful ways to change society to make ita better world,
especially via free energy  devices.

Then surely soon the money system will change too automatically
and society will get less greedy.

So please don´t spread violence or hate as it only causes more violence and hate.

Many thanks for your understanding.

Regards, Stefan.

Even I can't stress this enough!

[casman1969]

That's correct Harti.

First, we exaust all and I do mean all, avenues of peacefull redress. You may not think, based on my previous posts, that I beleive this but I do. Right now the actions of a minority in this country, who are willing to work through this crisis, are having a profound impact on the majority. Everyone wants a peacefull resolution including myself but is it possible? Maybe blood needs to be spilt? More realisticly it will end up being a combination of the two. I am not advocating the violent overthrow of  this Nation, quite the contrary. All that is needed now is for Americans to wake up and see what's happening. From there begins the correction.
It is my humble opinion that everything sarts at the State level. We have mechanisms in place to peacefully remove our Federal Representatives and replace them with stuarts of our law. This is the correct step at the local level will and gain feet at the national level with the first such removal.
Time, however, is of the essence as we are experiencing a downward spiral that none of us have any power to control. It is and has been orchestrated over many decades to bring us to this point so that the several thousand power brokers can expand their base and drive us further into insolvency and eventually, servitude. It is not a question of if but when that will occur.
Do your own research and you will be left to draw your own conclusions. I have and I do now more fully understand the agenda.
To those of you who are still fiddling with the idea that you can "patent", for your own gain, some "free energy device, forget it. The cards (house of cards) are stacked against you. Surely you realize this.
So take Hartis' challenge and openly post all succesfull inventions/replications because in the end, money will mean NOTHING! The clock is ticking.., can you hear it?
From a Paul Revere wanabe.

[casman1969]

Just so you know how we persue this in a way you will all find interesting. Here is my web site with updates to follow. Unfortunately, it will take time to raise the money for the Constitutional Attorney and then to prepare the case and as you know, the wheels of justice are SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOOWWWW!
Every avenue will be explored.

http://www.riseupforamerica.com/

Now, if think this is "WACKO", hold onto your panties..,