Re: TPU, end the game

[sergeb]

Hi everyone, and happy new year!

New user here I have read this forum for some time and finally I decided to register to join the TPU discussion. I have read some documents describing TPU functionality, and "TPU, end the game" is one of them.

So, let me disagree. Here is the basic explanation from tao:

Here is a broad and very general overview of how the TPU would look.

http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/kick1.gif
http://www.zpelabs.com/zpelabs/endgame/kick2.gif

As I can guess, tao refers to "EMF of self inductance"  which is commonly used in some ignition coils to get high voltage from low-voltage power supply. Because EMF of SI can have much greater voltage than original Power Supply. Its voltage is directly proportional to coil's inductance.

The basic formula describing self-inductance is E = L * dI / dt. So when the current grows up, the SI voltage will be opposite to PS voltage as shown on 1st image. And this is correct. Magnetic field being built around the coil and it sucking the energy from Power Supply.

But when the current drops down, the SI voltage will have SIMILAR direction to a PS. So the magnetic field which have been built around the coil, is collapsing and sending spent energy back to the source.

So the "Step 2" description on 2nd figure is wrong. And 60% of descriptions after that fig are also wrong. Current in a collector can not be DC in this way.

Just because original KICK from PS causes HV in one direction, and the next KICK from SI effect causes HV in other direction.

PS - Power Supply
SI - Self Inductance
HV - High Voltage

[Doug1]

 Dont become depressed. Patience patience patience, it will all come out in due time. I have been on this trip for 35 years logged more hours then could ever be paid for. Learned enough to keep going on searching for the one thing. Patience ,there is much to contemplate above and beyond the trick itself.

[sergeb]

I dont become depressed I just say that it can work in a different way than described by tao. (btw, is this not joke that it worls? lol)

tao principle are right just before mistake described above. all following described principles are originated from mistake, so I give 99% them to be wrong.

While the topic "TPU, end the game" is sticky and new users read it, they can be mislead from the beginning.

PS. Is there any other variant of TPU working principles? I think I completely understand trick with small coil, pulse PS and lamp wire instead of core. But this mobuis loop with double wire driving me nuts lol. What point in it? Where to read about that? Of course, i will do expirements, but want to understand basic things before.

[AhuraMazda]

Is there any other variant of TPU working principles? I think I completely understand trick with small coil...

There are no known working versions of the TPU that anyone knows about.
There are many people who think they know how it works.
Have you joined to add to the confusion?

[sergeb]

The one thing I have joined is the discussion

Even if this "TPU success" is a tale, there is at least one very interesting point - there is no mutual induction in collector and C-coils. And this seems to be true. And this is what really interested me.

Other interesting thing - current induction in collector do not use magnetic field directly as it used in most transformers (that is why no mutual inductance). It uses electrical field to induct the current. Magnetic field around the control coil only interfere and causing collector particles to swirl (according to Lorentz force).

i think how to exploit it. But all public TPU schemes with mobius loop are obscure for me