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Simple,cheap,working,legal device to reduce electric bill(power factor optim.)

Started by Creativity, January 06, 2009, 06:51:15 PM

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Creativity

They applied twice for a patent first was quite simple:

publication number:                           WO/2005/050341   
International Application No.:        PCT/CZ2004/000077

they never got the patent,their application stuck at International Preliminary Report on Patentability  there was no inventive step and their claims 1-9 were all ruled out on this basis.more details here to find;

http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/fetch.jsp?SEARCH_IA=CZ2004000077&DBSELECT=PCT&C=10&TOTAL=19&IDB=0&TYPE_FIELD=256&SERVER_TYPE=19-10&QUERY=(ANA%2FCZ)+AND+(DE%2Fvoltage+AND+DE%2Fregulator)+&ELEMENT_SET=B&START=1&SORT=41240306-KEY&RESULT=16&DISP=25&FORM=SEP-0%2FHITNUM%2CB-ENG%2CDP%2CMC%2CAN%2CPA%2CABSUM-ENG&IDOC=95944&IA=CZ2004000077&LANG=ENG&DISPLAY=DOCS

Second application is more successful :
Pub. No.:        WO/2007/031038         International Application No.:        PCT/CZ2006/000059
more details:

http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/fetch.jsp?SEARCH_IA=CZ2006000059&DBSELECT=PCT&C=10&TOTAL=2&IDB=0&TYPE_FIELD=256&SERVER_TYPE=19-10&QUERY=(PA%2FFOGLAR%2C+AND+PA%2FJaroslav)+&ELEMENT_SET=B&START=1&SORT=41253927-KEY&RESULT=1&DISP=25&FORM=SEP-0%2FHITNUM%2CB-ENG%2CDP%2CMC%2CAN%2CPA%2CABSUM-ENG&IDOC=96106&IA=CZ2006000059&LANG=ENG&DISPLAY=STATUS

i read through the:
http://www.eramcz.eu/reg.htm
they do not use capacitors,that's good and probably much cheaper. Instead some toroidal trafos are used for the voltage stabilisation and power factor adjustments.

Have u made any tests with ur device(s) already?(the one(s) u ordered?)
Blues it through your outstanding life,leaving more than just footsteps behind (1999 B-stok by me).

By being intensively responsive to what others say,i do run a risk: I open myself up to the opinions of others.i will,at times, have a great understanding for their opinion.Sometimes,i will even change my own opinion because i realize that the other person is right.This "risk" i do not run if i am unresponsive to what others say.

helmut

@ Creativity

The Parts arrived and i applyed a EU Plug . Than i gave it to the Neighbour to do
some Test because i had to work far from Home. Until now i have no report about it.
But i guess, that there is no significant reduce on the Bill.

I like the Way, the eramcz.eu People just build a solution.

Controle  the Voltage and controle the fee.
Thats the Way to fight against the thiefs. ( Electricity Suppliers)
This is on a legal way

helmut

pese

Hello,
i dont know the word for this item.
BUT dont belive that you have fimd !"overunity".
this device can automatic regulalate the output voltage to
any  wanted "fix / solid) voltage - ALSO IF the
an input is (example) 20 % higher or lower , as that)

The device  was used before WW2  - aso NOW!!!
If the line voltage(as 110 or 220 VAC is not in good stability
to use. medical and  other laboratory electric equipments
that need properly and solid  supply.

You can buy this device as external /addition equipment, also some instruments that
was contained inside.  (I have seen the last 2006 in an medical instrument
(an i have dissambled all parts. and remember the knowledge from
may father (i am now 66).
It is an very simply technic that you can find also in electric/physical books.
Gustav Pese
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e2matrix

Quote from: fuzzytomcat on January 16, 2009, 08:12:36 PM
If you live in the United States a quick way to save money on a electricity bill is to "Balance" the amperage or electrical loads so the amperage draw is equal on each leg of electricity that passes through your watt hour electrical meter used by your utility provider.

The way the watt hour meter operates is the amperage or load is divided into two power legs or phases 120 volt line to ground circuits, each of the two being metered on a home 3-wire system (utility transformer or power lines to utility watt hour meter base). If one leg or phase of the 120 volt line to ground is at 40 amps and the other 120 volt line to ground is at 80 amps your pay for the 80 amps the higher of the two. If both 120 volt line to ground legs or phases are balanced at 60 amps per leg or phase ..... right you pay for the 60 amps ..... not the 80 amp high leg or phase on a unbalance 3-wire system.

Alway any modifications to your electrical service system should be done by qualified person or electrician.

There are many homes that used a type of wire called 12/3 NM or 14/3 NM or Romex wire with or without a ground wire (red, black, white) and may be used inside of a electrical circuit breaker panel for two 120 volt circuits this is allowed by the NEC code, and the red and black wires "MUST" be on separate phases or legs to share the neutral or white wire.

Fuzzy :)
Sorry to drag up this rather old thread but I find this is NOT correct.  I don't have your credentials fuzzytomcat but I have built 2 houses doing all the wiring myself.  But that does prove anything however I just couldn't bring myself to believe what you were saying here as it does not make sense to me.  So I turned off everything in the house and hooked up two 1500 watt heaters, one on one leg and one on the other leg.  And yes I'm sure they are on opposite legs as I wired this myself.  I also tried each heater by itself on both legs to eliminate any variations in individual heaters even though both were rated 1500 watt.  The results do not validate what you have stated.  I measured exactly 5 turns of my analog electric meter (the non-digital kind) with little dials and the one big aluminum spinner.  For exactly 5 turns with both heaters it was taking 76 seconds.  For exactly 5 turns with one heater or the other by itself (and again both tried on each leg one at a time) I was getting 39 seconds.  Two times 39 seconds is 78 seconds.  So there is an apparent 2 seconds discrepancy but according to what you were saying running both at the same time on separate legs should have still measured 39 seconds whether one or both were running.  I do respect your knowledge and have seen great contributions by you on another forum but this does not agree with what you have said.  So unless there is some particular kind of old meter this works on I would say this is not true.  My meter is a standard looking GE model on a 200 Amp main panel.  Can you or anyone explain why my tests are different than what you stated.  Did I totally misunderstand something here? 

   One more bit of info I found to confirm my statement was from a forum where someone was asking something along this line.  This is an answer by 'tkrussell - the Senior Electrical & Lighting Expert' : 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,640
   "Balancing a panelboard does not save on electric bill, a watt is a watt, and does not matter which side the watt goes thru the meter, the meter will still register the watt and the time billing you in kilowatt-hours."