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Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!

Started by Goat, January 09, 2009, 11:54:12 AM

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gadgetmall

Quote from: IceStorm on March 07, 2009, 08:12:03 PM
Hi Gadgetmall,

Dont forget the JB Cigar box, ran on 9v NiCd for more than 7 years non stop so the chemistry is not the only reactive in the process. Look at EFTV , JB show clearly in many clip that he used SLA as well as wet cell. JB show a process with the SSG , not the final product, just the principle.

Best Regards,
IceStorm
Yes i understand  why they must exhaust all logical answers first . There was mention of the little box in his book it was a   SS tesla switch . not a bedini and it used several nicads(4x1.2volt) that eventually went dead after 6 months(a liitle shy from 7 years) :)  but during the time it ran an electric motor.and if was something that was to be replicated it was probably the tesla switch he gave the schematics for . . It only needs the batterys to start the effect recycling .. tesla switch - Bedini - two separate beast but they both reley on the same thing for energy extraction . the BEMF
Best regards
Al 
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Pirate88179

I read that the original Bedini SSG motor was operated by one 9 volt battery and ran for 2 weeks continuously  This was during the science fair experiment with the little school girl.  Now, I don't know if the 9 volt was a rechargeable or lead acid.  I am using 2 nicads 9 volts on my Bedini replication and it seems to work so far.  If I could afford 2 acid cell 12 volt bats I would have used them.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Hoppy

Quote from: IceStorm on March 07, 2009, 08:12:03 PM
Hi Gadgetmall,

Dont forget the JB Cigar box, ran on 9v NiCd for more than 7 years non stop so the chemistry is not the only reactive in the process. Look at EFTV , JB show clearly in many clip that he used SLA as well as wet cell. JB show a process with the SSG , not the final product, just the principle.

Best Regards,
IceStorm


I have observed the charging effect using small SLA's and John Bedini has only ever said that wet cell batteries show the effects of radiant charging better than SLA's. The question that remains unanswered for me is can this charging take a battery above its 'at rest' voltage to a fully charged state?  I have not yet seen this and until I do I will not be convinced that this is real charging.

Gadget need not be concerned that others may not believe his claim because he is unable to convince anyone by video anymore than anyboby else can with their claims. It is case of seeing first hand is believing. The video helps others to replicate an experiment and thats all. For instance Gadget says his setup runs OU. He has based this conclusion on his interpretation of his data set based on his knowledge, understanding and beliefs. Others observing the very same thing may reach a different conclusion based on their knowledge, understanding  and beliefs. Both conclusions are valid until an analysis based on accepted scientific principles is carried out and a consensus reached amongst those deemed qualified to do this. This is dilemna Bedini faces. He can believe what he wishes and make theories and claims accordingly but until the 'scientific establishment' sit up and take notice and invest time and money in attempting to validate his claims, they remain scientifically unproven.

Hoppy

Pirate88179

@ Hoppy:

You raise a valid point here but,...there is always a but, I know Gadgetmall (Al) and if he says his device does such and such, I believe him.  I am also going to try to replicate it, not to see if it is true, just to see it working after I build it.  If he was just some guy off the street that said this, then I would agree with you, but he isn't.  I really don't expect "science" to accept anytime soon Gadget's device, Earth Batteries, Joule Thief circuits, Bedini motors, etc.  These things are out there and I have seen them and worked with them.  They work.  To anyone that has any doubts I say, replicate.  But, when you replicate, do NOT swap transistors, capacitors, wire sizes, different coils, etc.  Do not change anything, which to me is the definition of replication, and having changed the design then say it does not work.  No, this only means YOUR changes to the design do not work, not the original design.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Hoppy

@ Bill

You too raise a valid point about replication. Exact replication is the ideal but very difficult to achieve in terms of exactly replicating the type and most importantly condition of Gadget's battery, plus wiring sizes and interconnections and method and procedure for data collection.

I agree with you that the devices you list actually work. Like you, I have built and tested them. Bedini energisers do IMO charge batteries and improve their condition. Earth batteries do produce useable amounts of energy and JT's can light Flouro's, LED's and charge batteries. However, I have not seen OU / self-running from any system I have built using these devices and this is probably simply because I interpret the data differently to others that do claim OU from their setups.

I have no doubt that Gadget is sincere in his claim and I hope that he can develop his devices to a practical level that helps mankind.

Hoppy