Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!

[Hoppy]

Hey Hoppy, if you lost about 1 amp by accident I would highly let the battery sit for a couple of hours to make sure the voltage will not raise while running the fan because of the fact that the battery is simply stabilizing its voltage. I felt for that mistake a couple of times too, making me feel very frustrated before.

But, it also could be an Eureka moment of yours. Dont that make you feel good?

If this is indeed a voltage rise because of the device it is very inline with my findings about it works when the voltage of the battery is in a certain level while also well tuned for that voltage. As soon as your battery goes up to another level, it gets out of tune and the fan will stop spinning.

Fausto.

My voltage is still higher than the start of the first test run.  When the fan is stopped at the end of a test run and the load is released, if the load resistance is then increased to lower the running current then the final voltage seems to end up higher than the previous run. I saw this effect even before I started my serious test runs and I've seen the same effect when running the Bedini energiser. My fan has not yet stopped during a test run, so I dont know how this affects the final voltage but it may also cause a rise of voltage over the previous run.

Overall I'm gaining voltage from one test run to another but loosing voltage during a test run if it is long enough and that's a long time! It sounds daft but this is what I'm seeing. Therefore this begs the question -is the battery really charging?? To answer this, I think it may be necessary for us all to carry out several long duration consecutive test runs without the fan stopping in mid run (if that's possible) or making any inter run current changes to eliminate the possibility that fan interruptions and current alterations have caused an increase in end voltage over and above the initial  'on-load' start voltage.

I have noticed distinct variances in charging with an SG energiser from day to night. This has been reported by several experimenters, so given that we are running an SG type fan setup, this effect should be seen. I think its to do with temperature as Groundloop suggests.

Hoppy

[plengo]

@Plengo,

What is the temperature at night compared to the temperature in day time?
(In the room where the fan is running.)

Electronics uses more current when it is warm than when it is cold.

Groundloop.

The same temperature pretty much, around 68 F. Good point!

[hartiberlin]

Hi Fausto,
it also has to do with the moon and the sun and its gravity.

This way the electrolyte in the batteries is influenced,
exactly like the tides in the sea.

We also have this effect in the saltwater-Zamak batteries, which usually run
better during night time !

It seems to be a gravity effect on the battery components..

Surely also your grounding of your equipment can influence your setup
and also the oxidation of the metal pot contacts
versus the graphite layer in your pots !

Just try to measure the resistances of your pots and replace them
with real resistors and solder it all up...

These experimental boards are not good for replication
experiments, cause the resistances of these contact materials
can change also due to oxidation layers of the metals involved and
also during night due to gravity influences...

Are you a smoker ?
Smoke can also put oxidation layers onto the contacts...!

So the best thing is to hook it all up onto a real PCB board or
a wooden board with some nails in it and then solder
all to the nails, which work as solder points.

So you can buildup fast a replication board and have it all
soldered up and no contact problems, which can ruin your
replication successes...

Regards, Stefan.

[Hoppy]

Good points Stefan. I try to avoid experimental boards for the reasons you give but to be honest I don't think my croc lead lash-up is much better!

Hoppy

[hartiberlin]

Here you can see, how the sun and the moon
influence the gravity of fluids on earth:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tides

and especially:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spingtide.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Neaptide.jpg

This will also alter the contact potential between the fluids
(electrolyte) inside the battery and the electrodes, so
it will change the battery voltage and the current capabilities.

Regards, Stefan.
P.S: Why are people living near the sea don´t use the enormous tide water level
differences not more to generate power ??