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Giving it away?!

Started by Randomsomeone, January 16, 2009, 02:15:21 PM

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wattsup

You are neglecting the reality.

What reality you ask. It is simple. Those that are in the OU endeavor know that there are many ways to skin the proverbial OU cat, just like there are two sides of a road you can drive on. There are also many degrees of expertise levels in the devices that people are working on.

If you had a compact OU device that had 3 small coils, a transistor, a few small caps and a few resistors, and if this could be made by anyone with a soldering iron, that is one level. If the device requires 150 specially machined and calibrated parts that are not available off the self, that is another level and there are many levels in between.

But here is the reality in this OU endeavor.

Whatever you come up with, you then have a choice. You can try and keep your mouth shut while you go through all the patent process and expense. Or you can go public and just give it too the world. YES JUST GIVE IT TO THE WORLD. Either way, within 90 days it will be rendered obsolete because someone else will have lit their brain light and come up with an even better idea using some of your patented slants but different enough to say "No way buddy, this ones mine". lol

So you can blow the market horn all you want, the reality is even if you come up with a working device, expect to be rendered obsolete very quickly. This is the nature of the technological beast that is advancing not in small multiples but at an extreme exponential rate.

Hey, you can dream all you want about making it rich with OU but you are only kidding yourself. Patent, big deal, 17 years of protection. What's the use when you are rendered obsolete. How long did the 8-track cassette last? How many patents are just paper and never see the market? How many OU inventors are sitting at home wondering why the f*&k they signed with JoeBlow Corporation and now they are stuck for life.

Invent it. Give it too the world. While you do this, make it, sell it, sell your expertise to companies that want to make, what can be simpler then that.

What is the advantage of being the richest person in the cemetery. What is the advantage in sitting on the morning toilet bowl with a 400$ supper or a 10$ supper waiting to get out. (That's gross I  know but we all do it every day.) Then what is the point of fighting with the impending "God Syndrome" and dealing with your entourage that will suffer from Gold Fever. You think these are just stories. This is the reality and we are only men, surrounded by other men, all with their own interests.

Who can say I, myself, with my own reliance on my own mind and my own ideas has come up with this OU device. What about all the backs you have walked on to get to where you are. Did all those that helped you learn what you know ask for their cut. NO. We all walk on the backs of the great that have come before us. No one can say they have a "absolutely new" idea. All such ideas will forcibly have  and/or pull from all of what has been done before us.

Then there is the OU time warp, where we think we are living in an advanced society but in OU reality, we are just about to enter the age of the Model-T. The beginning of OU will be a time of great change and OU advancement that will exponentially be great. So where are you supposed to get your kicks when you know you just signed with a big investor and this now means you can now longer hold your own ideas as your own. Where and how will you maintain your control over your own life when everything you have will ride on this one idea and should someone come up with something "more convenient" you now become history. There is only one way you can be great and still command your destiny. Abandon, do not expect acclamations or riches. You will be free to enjoy both the thankful world and also the financial rewards, but you will also enjoy your continued freedom to be your own man. Just ask SM. He knows very well what I am talking about.

So please, spare me the lectures on market forces. What about my life, my freedom, my want to just help others live a better life. Bah, what's the use. Each his own.

Randomsomeone

Quote from: wattsup on January 16, 2009, 08:15:59 PM
You are neglecting the reality.

What reality you ask. It is simple. Those that are in the OU endeavor know that there are many ways to skin the proverbial OU cat, just like there are two sides of a road you can drive on. There are also many degrees of expertise levels in the devices that people are working on.

If you had a compact OU device that had 3 small coils, a transistor, a few small caps and a few resistors, and if this could be made my anyone with a soldering iron, that is one level. If the device requires 150 specially machined and calibrated parts that are not available off the self, that is another level and there are many levels in between.

But here is the reality in this OU endeavor.

Whatever you come up with, you then have a choice. You can try and keep your mouth shut while you go through all the patent process and expense. Or you can go public and just give it too the world. YES JUST GIVE IT TO THE WORLD. Either way, within 90 days it will be rendered obsolete because someone else will have lit their brain light and come up with an even better idea using some of your patented slants but different enough to say "No way buddy, this ones mine". lol

So you can blow the market horn all you want, the reality is even if you come up with a working device, expect to be rendered obsolete very quickly. This is the nature of the technological beast that is advancing not in small multiples but at an extreme exponential rate.

Hey, you can dream all you want about making it rich with OU but you are only kidding yourself. Patent, big deal, 17 years of protection. What's the use when you are rendered obsolete. How long did the 8-track cassette last? How many patents are just paper and never see the market? How many OU inventors are sitting at home wondering why the f*&k they signed with JoeBlow Corporation and now they are stuck for life.

Invent it. Give it too the world. While you do this, make it, sell it, sell your expertise to companies that want to make, what can be simpler then that.

What is the advantage of being the richest person in the cemetery. What is the advantage in sitting on the morning toilet bowl with a 400$ supper or a 10$ supper waiting to get out. (That's gross I  know but we all do it every day.) Then what is the point of fighting with the impending "God Syndrome" and dealing with your entourage that will suffer from Gold Fever. You think these are just stories. This is the reality and we are only men, surrounded by other men, all with their own interests.

Who can say I, myself, with my own reliance on my own mind and my own ideas have come up with this OU device. What about all the backs you have walked on to get to where you are. Did all those that helped you learn what you know ask for their cut. NO. We all walk on the backs of the great that have come before us. No one can say they have a "absolutely new" idea. All such ideas will forcibly have  and/or pull from all of what has been done before us.

Then there is the OU time warp, where we think we are living in an advanced society but in OU reality, we are just about to enter the age of the Model-T. The beginning of OU will be a time of great change and OU advancement that will exponentially be great. So where are you supposed to get your kicks when you know you just signed with a big investor and this now means you can now longer hold your own ideas as your own. Where and how will you maintain you control over your own life when everything you have will ride on this one idea and should someone come up with something "more convenient" you now become history. There is only one way you can be great and still command your destiny. Abandon, do not expect acclamations or riches. You will be free to enjoy both the thankful world and also the financial rewards, but you will also enjoy your continued freedom to be your own man. Just ask SM. He knows very well what I am talking about.

So please, spare me the lectures of market forces. What about my life, my freedom, my want to just help others live a better life. Bah, what's the use. Each his own.

So basically....

"Give up on trying to profit from things you invent because someone else will improve it"

....thats not really how it works.

You also dont just sign with one company and thats it.... you CAN do that...or you can do MANY other things (such as selling the rights to many different companies).

Trying to manufacture and sell little units yourself is just so trivial its not even worth it. Why spend your time inventing something new? Why not just make some TV's or something that look different and are custom made? You would probably make more doing that anyway heh.

How do you think people who patent ideas get rich? Why doesnt everyone just rip them off by changing a few things? Why didnt the guy who made the post-it note get ripped off? Why didnt the person who developed the batteryless wacom pen tablet get ripped off? ,,,,, Patents are a little harder to break than you think....

z.monkey

Goodwill to All, for All is One!

innovation_station

nice seeing you stand up monkey and wattsup!

mine works also .... 

hey with little effort it is selfsustaining  :P 8)


from a aaa battery it will power my 50lbs pulse motor wich i have gear boxes i will run off the axel to power bigger generators or maybe put it in a CAR!!!! ;D

YOU ALL DECIDE

@ z want a job? ;)   lol a big one  :)
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

wattsup

No, you are putting words in my mouth.

You are talking about inventing a new Rubic's Cube, or a new Toaster, or a new medical device or whatever useful thing will have a regular market potential. You are trying to equate such normal business activities with the advent of OU.

What we are working on is bigger then any one worldwide corporation can handle. Bigger then any one simple minded inventor could even start to realize the importance and the total implications go so way above any one persons head that if you try and control it, your head will simply bust from the pressure.

You're talking about rudimentary product development and marketing. Wrong league. I know very well what that side is. I have done it all my life. Big deal. It will not work with OU devices because the market forces are just tooooooooo great.

You can't sign with ABC company, because this will knock out their competitor DEF, GHI and JKL company who also have world importance in the market. Then there are all the other problems. You cannot sign with a Jewish company otherwise you cannot get into the Arab countries.

So you sign with Ford and they decide to keep all the other car companies out of the loop. You sign with GE and Westinghouse just got shafted along with 60% of the world's market. You sign with anyone and all you are doing is limiting yourself, because they WILL INSIST ON CONTROLLING YOU. For what. For a few bucks. Nahhhhhhhh. No thanks. I'm my own boss and I know that if I give this to the world, ALL THE WORLD, then ALL will use it just as I intended. Even the small village chief in Africa will have his first light bulb in his Center Square.

So again, No thanks. But nice try.