Giving it away?!

[lltfdaniel1]

If i came up with a free energy device i would not bother patent it because the device would just collect dust anyways.

Anyways i would go onto someones wireless network far away from where i live, upload whatever to a free website host so they can not track you there well yea sure it will be simple looking webpage but getting the message across is what i would care about, then i would put step by step instructions with pictures and likely youtube videos as well as telling where it would not work and where it would work.

This is to help novice builders learn from your actions on youtube and we all know action is louder than words as well as raiseing confidence, i would reveal every aspect of it as much as i can to blow doubt out, best of all is if it is inexpensive and simple enough to build.

Then whoever builds it and if i was 100% sure then i would not be alarmed as in wasting his time.

I would not give a crap if someone would copy it and patent it them selfs, all i care about is people building it for them selfs or maybe someone close to them and sure how the hell who mib know who built it?

And yea i would be happy selling electric .

Sorry if i derailed this.

[Randomsomeone]

You can't sign with ABC company, because this will knock out their competitor DEF, GHI and JKL company who also have world importance in the market. Then there are all the other problems. You cannot sign with a Jewish company otherwise you cannot get into the Arab countries.

So you sign with Ford and they decide to keep all the other car companies out of the loop. You sign with GE and Westinghouse just got shafted along with 60% of the world's market. You sign with anyone and all you are doing is limiting yourself, because they WILL INSIST ON CONTROLLING YOU. For what. For a few bucks. Nahhhhhhhh. No thanks. I'm my own boss and I know that if I give this to the world, ALL THE WORLD, then ALL will use it just as I intended. Even the small village chief in Africa will have his first light bulb in his Center Square.

You dont need to give exclusivity when you allow someone to use your patent....

Sign with company A, B, C, D, E, F...and whoever else. They all give you money and all develop technologies around your base patent. Some might make a small battery for home use? Some might make large scale energy companies for powering cities? Some might make personal generators for houses and businesses? Some might make camping units? .....however they wish to apply it. Theres a lot of room for "energy" in terms of company options....

[MrMag]

lltfdaniel1, I agree with you 100%. A patent is a waste of time. Any smart company will change a small portion of your patent and start selling units. You will spend the rest of your life and all of your money fighting it in court. I would also send it out to everyone for free. If industries want to pick it up and start selling it, so be it. Some people may be able to make their own unit and some may need to buy it. If it is a very good system hopefully many companies will pick it up and sell them. This would make the unit cost drop from the competition between the companies.

[wattsup]

Shit another long post. lol
I'm really riled up on this subject.

Wrong again.

Here you go talking about a toaster again. You are not dealing with toaster manufacturers selling them know-how on a new heart shaped or other shaped toasting pattern. (Hey...... not a bad idea. lol)

You remind me of those living in a LalaLand of miraculous marketing savvy thinking you have the answer to OU in the marketplace. Marketing and the corporate credo has given itself the right to lie, cheat and even kill each other and us. It sells us all our vices and it generates greed among the holders. Nothing like that will help an OUer. lol

Signing with A will take time, then signing with B while A is now already on the ball will simply put your life at extreme risk (BAD MOVE) because A will want to have it ALL for themselves. Actually C and D will already be making plans to abduct you and G really does not want you to succeed and are planning to eliminate A and B along the way just to tighten up loose ends. All this because as soon as you start trying to license, the cat will be out of the bag and one by one the dogs will start hounding you.

Basic Business Mentality  - whatever it takes to make the shareholders happy. You will have so many greedy corporates salivating at the though of controlling this for their own gain. But you can't blame them because their Mommy and Daddy where like that also. It's NORMAL.

During all this time, all the people you told of this "thing-you-have" are in the know and become a source of constant paranoia. Did I say too much? Can I trust this guy? What happens if they pull the plug? Am I really protected? SM again showed that this is a common occurrence of paranoia and distrust. Not a good way to live.

Now if you spend 1 week looking at all the angles you will soon realize that open source is the only way.

The simple fact is that the ONLY REAL OU or FE device that Human Kind will ever know will be the one that is GIVEN as Open Source. Any singular corporate endeavor will fail because you will then be thrown into the lions den of standard business practice and their trained academic puppets and legal vultures. If you don't make a business of it, they can't get you business wise. That's one hell of a problem solved.

Example: Joe the plumber. No, wrong guy. Joe the Coiler. He has it. He wants the big cash. He shows it to A, but A says he is wiling to put in some big bucks but what are you going to put into it. So Joe mortgages his home to put some greenbacks in while the money guy really pours in the cash. Once the device is up and running greedy A will find loop holes in the agreements that he will use to make the company fail while still holding on to the technology because after all the major money they poured into it, they consider it is theirs. This will be held up in courts for years and years and meanwhile, you will not be able to do squat with the device.

OK, so mortgage your home and do it yourself. Impossible. You will never succeed. The work involved in simply expanding the knowledge will prohibit you from wasting your time drilling holes, unless if you are giving a seminar on how to make some of the parts at a large metal shop with 50 potential corporate users invited from all over the world. You could be doing this for weeks, with 50 new users every day. All Open Source, but you won't have time to fiddle around drilling holes and you do take generous donations. lol

So don't try this as a singular business. Make it into an Open Source Foundation and use xx% of what comes in to help those in need. You guys don't get it.

Imagine this. Going the business route means stay in one water molecule, while you're swimming in a pitcher of water. Eventually you will become a bacteria or colloid, sticking together growing this way and that and finally forming a weird shaped stringy organism that could be locally neutralized at any moment. That's the business.

Now Imagine going Open Source. You're in the pitcher of water but you are everywhere as if you put in a drop of iodine. Iodine is good cause the bad guys don't last. lol

So you have this stringy thing that is clobbered from all sides pushing and pulling on your every heart and soul, every time you make a business move you are risking everything, or, you have this harmonious generalized momentum and no one can stop you because you are everywhere and everyone else will not want you to be harmed.

Those in power that will want this technology to flourish will quickly learn to hold the betrayers of our fellow man at bay and the inventor will be protected.

Inventors Protection and Neutrality - Stay humble and don't be a Smart ASS.

As the inventor, you will insist to all interested companies, etc., that you will not partake or tolerate that any company discuss with you any fields of activity other then the device itself. No talking about secrets or other parallel corporate endeavors, etc. Since you will be speaking to everyone, you will never need to know anything deeper then level 1. Actually you should only be talking to techies and corporate technology specialists. If you know nothing of everyone, you can speak with everyone. You are there to expand the knowledge and teach others to expand the knowledge. You are a disinterested and neutral entity with only one intent. One day you talk to one side, the next day you may be talking to another side. You have no preference in nationality or party. Only an exceptional OUer will survive such scrutiny. A favored trait and something to practice in your spare time - Impartiality. The universal magnet. No corporate Bimbo would survive this.

THERE IS NO OTHER WAY.

Affirmation that everyone should say once a day.
"Thank you Universe for our Free Energy that you have given us, in a just and perfect manner."

Very simple again.

The corporate charters have over pushed their bounds. A major shareholder blames you because you did not stop so and so technology from ruining that corporation, because such a lack to act goes against their charter. The importance of this right to survive is so great that they have given themselves the illusionist rights to sequester and inhibit advancement.

IT IS AN UNWRITTEN RULE OF ANY CORPORATE CHARTER TO ENSURE ALL NECESSARY MEANS TO STAY AFLOAT. BIG FUCK'IN DEAL. SO YOU'RE IN BUSINESS. WHAT ELSE IS NEW. NOW GET READY TO FOLD. SORRY IT HAPPENS. BUT WE WILL HAVE A MILLION MORE AND BETTER JOBS IN OTHER FIELDS, MORE ADVANCED AND LESS POLLUTING USING FE.

The excuses for Military Means will be pointless. Global Terrorism is bullshit. It's really called localized crime aggrandized to serve the power  holders. You won't even need the military anymore because people will have a  hard time finding things to fight about. Everyone will have a better life. Cleaner, less of a concoction spewed by our very friendly mass media (oh yeh, oh yeh) and more aligned with common knowledge and common law. Don't be a prick and I won't bash your face in attitude.

You think you as an inventor can hold one multinational at bay, imagine all multinationals. Corporations that have given themselves rights via their grand standings at Lincoln's feet while fattening the bellies of our Valiant Leaders. (Bush not included in the valiant category but that's just me - lol.)

You underestimate what you are trying to control if you think a little smart ass EEin, CWin, CMin Pulse Head will control all of this. Bull man. Just go Open Source. Send preliminary copies for review to some trusted friends. Register Mail a copy to yourself. Send one to your Grandma. Tell her I said Hi. Then post it open source. Screw the rest. This I will do when I have it. (But I don't have a Grandma anymore so I'll send a copy to my Mom instead.) What we need is a known method of dispatch, a Guide on How to Disclose Open Source Devices and Knowledge (and live to talk about it - lol). Unlimited Edition. lol

It is very simple. The more we can expose, the less will be hidden and the more we will be Freeeeeeeeee.

LAST point on this subject from wattsup.

How much money is enough for an OUer to be able to live a decent existence for himself and his family. 1 million, 10 million, whatever. It's all peanuts compared to all the good your invention will do for mankind. No money will ever be enough. So you have a choice. You can make your 10 million via the risky and treacherous business avenues like you are a football half back running with the ball trying to avoid being tackled or you can make the same 10 million going Open Source without the headaches and dangers. It's the same 10 million. No difference money wise. But one will risk sending you into the doldrums of hell while the other will ensure you are revered by all mankind as an exceptional humanitarian. So you decide. For me the answer is simple. Open Source.

[Randomsomeone]

Hahaha, wow your one of "those" ? ....all big business is evil and the government is trying to kidnap you for alien experiments?

Yea, you want to have a plan on how to introduce it...who to go to...what deals to make... but its not all cloak and daggers as you think. Do you have ANY experience in this? Or is all your knowledge from movies?....