My Steorn prediction

[canam101]

I admire Steorn and Sean McCarthy. Despite the verdict of the jury, Sean has stated that they will launch this year.

Amazing. The guy is either a conman with the gall of a Mark Goldes, or he has the goods, and damn well knows that fire2 will spread throughout the world this year. It's just that he didn't quite get things together in time for the jury to see what he had.

Even if he is a conman, you have to sort of admire such gall.

[Bobbotov]

It's just that he didn't quite get things together in time for the jury to see what he had.

The jury was an open ended process so saying that Steorn was a day late and a dollar short is absurd. Especially since day one they said the technology was "always proven to work." Besides, if they knew they didn't have their act together then why spend $85K on the Economist ad to acquire the finest scientists they could only to have the jury spend two years cooling their heels waiting for the goods to be delivered and being compensated by Steorn during that process for incidental expenses? Also, if they did not have the tech ready until after the jury disbanded then why did they attempt the splashy Kinetica fiasco?

None of this makes any sense in terms of reality.

[canam101]

The jury was an open ended process so saying that Steorn was a day late and a dollar short is absurd. Especially since day one they said the technology was "always proven to work."

They meant that the readings on the test equipment always showed the anomaly.

Besides, if they knew they didn't have their act together then why spend $85K on the Economist ad to acquire the finest scientists they could only to have the jury spend two years cooling their heels waiting for the goods to be delivered and being compensated by Steorn during that process for incidental expenses?

Obviously because they believed that they would be able to race ahead and turn the anomaly into a working device, and provide the jury with the plans for it in good time.

Also, if they did not have the tech ready until after the jury disbanded then why did they attempt the splashy Kinetica fiasco?

Because they did have the tech ready, sort of. They were able to make a very fragile device that the Steorn Effect could turn - that is as far as they were able to get - and the thing was so fragile that the bearings melted. They made a sincere effort, but were unlucky/careless.

None of this makes any sense in terms of reality.

It makes perfect sense to me: Steorn found some laboratory curiosity of an anomaly and thought they could see the way to quickly turn it into a useful device. The jury was a publicity scheme of some kind to give credence to their gizmo when they finally built it, but all they could come up with were ambiguous test results to give to the jury.

The jury finally had enough of looking at numbers, and after many requests to Steorn for a gizmo to play with, or the plans for one, they said 'we quit'.

Since then, Steorn has almost come up with a gizmo that isn't as fragile as a spider web, but it won't be ready for a few more months they figure; so they are saying 'toward the end of this year' for the launch to give themselves plenty of time.

[Bobbotov]

They meant that the readings on the test equipment always showed the anomaly.
Obviously because they believed that they would be able to race ahead and turn the anomaly into a working device, and provide the jury with the plans for it in good time.
Because they did have the tech ready, sort of. They were able to make a very fragile device that the Steorn Effect could turn - that is as far as they were able to get - and the thing was so fragile that the bearings melted. They made a sincere effort, but were unlucky/careless.

It makes perfect sense to me: Steorn found some laboratory curiosity of an anomaly and thought they could see the way to quickly turn it into a useful device. The jury was a publicity scheme of some kind to give credence to their gizmo when they finally built it, but all they could come up with were ambiguous test results to give to the jury.

The jury finally had enough of looking at numbers, and after many requests to Steorn for a gizmo to play with, or the plans for one, they said 'we quit'.

Since then, Steorn has almost come up with a gizmo that isn't as fragile as a spider web, but it won't be ready for a few more months they figure; so they are saying 'toward the end of this year' for the launch to give themselves plenty of time.

They have had over six years playing with this thing and have made numerous public statements and over the top fait accompli claims and you are saying that they will have something in a few months? Is this a hunch?

Even before the jury they had shown this to various universities, they have had several incarnations of developers clubs who attested to the fact that no real substantive info was ever provided and now they have the "300 club" who are currently being kept busy with physics 101 lessons.

They made great importance of the jury as the verdict was to be the basis for Validation Day that would kick off commercial operations. Now the jury has spoken, the bastards, and they are going ahead with commercialization anyway? I think you were right originally about them having the brass balls of Mark Goldes who was an infrequent poster on the Steorn site giving them all kinds of kudos. Takes one to know one, right?

I think after following this for three years it is BS. The jury confirms this and the fact that Steorn do not have their ducks in a row, jumped the gun or are just plain opportunists does not speak well of their organization. Plus their past history is one failed business venture after another. The only thing they have excelled at is marketing and getting investor money. Delivering the goods is just not their thing.

[canam101]

I was thinking that it might be some kind of reality tv show, as Frank Grimer suggested at the start.

Maybe a 6-parter on RTE or the BBC. At least the documentary crew fits in with that.

What doesn't fit in is who got interviewed? Jury members? Members of the forum? There is nothing I have heard about forum members being interviewed; and they would have mentioned it surely. And without interviewing the patsies, it wouldn't be interesting.

Then there is the question of what Steorn is really up to if not trying to invent an Orbo. They could have a legitimate business, with the tv show as a sideline: something that can be put together over 3 or 4 years, when they have time from their real business.

But what *is* their real business? And wouldn't there be some public documentation of it? If they are all chartered accountants, surely there would be records available to show that.

Hard to know what is going on. If Orbo isn't spinning by the end of the year, I may be disappointed.