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Overunity Machines Forum



Expansion rate of hho ?

Started by captainl67, January 21, 2009, 05:51:34 PM

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IronHead

Problem is the reaction happens so quickly it would not go through its stroke at least with the perfect mix for expansion and contraction that has propagation due to burn time. So some kind of valve system to send the vacuum to the other side would be needed. Or to another piston that is in the vacuum stroke trimming  If that makes sense.

But that is for another thread I think

Kator01

Hi Iron_Head,

I found this vid here which is a very remarkable demo of implosion and accelleration-value of a piston :

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=CkrCCo4Q0cI

This is the guy :

http://www.excusertech.com/Company.htm

Regards

Kator01


Chris31

I dont think implosion could take place in a very hot combustion chamber.  ???


exxcomm0n

As TK and others have said the implosion happens, I've experienced the collapsed bubbler syndrome myself.

When HHO explodes it creates energy and water.

Even if that water is expanded many times in the form of steam due to the heat of its surroundings, it still occupies less area than the disassociated gases due to molecular recombination back into a form of water.

I've often wondered at what type of mechanical means could harness both effects as the explosion/implosion conversion happens very quickly and the internal combustion engine (piston form) just can't turn fast enough to capitalize on that.

I'm not sure even a heavily modified Wankel could.
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Rotary is on the books for my major project once i get my cell running noice... 1984 Celica XX with a 13B or 20A (if i can get my hands on one) converted into it... should run nicly and have plenty of hood space to place any sort of Cell i want in there