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Newsflash: Overunity is impossible

Started by newsflash, January 30, 2009, 08:17:48 PM

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allcanadian

@newsflash
QuoteJust what the HELL are you talking about. Underunity is where you get less energy out than in. That is the case for every system in the history of everything. Go back to school
No, what you are stating is impossible ---Here is an example, I put 100 watts of power into an electric motor and 60 watts performs work as power in turning the motor shaft, then where did the other 40 watts go?. Well, the other 40 watts was converted to heat and you would have me believe this is underunity when it is not nor could it ever be. I have converted 100 electrical watts into 60 watts of work and 40 watts of heat, nothing is lost and nothing is gained-----this is not underunity it is the conservation of energy, in case you do not understand--- Heat is a form of energy and 100w = 60w+40w
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"Underunity is where you get less energy out than in."
Note you have said "ENERGY", the conservation of energy dictates that you cannot get less energy out than you put in or more because when ------ALL----- forms of energy are accounted for input must equal output. You are confusing useful energy with all forms of energy in general, it does not matter if the energy is useful or not it is always conserved 100% of it, this is unity-----this is basic physics.
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

turbo

Hi allcanadian  :)

You are absolutley correct there.  ;)
I have found it is best to just ignore those know it all's.
Don't waste your precious time on guy's like newsflash and other stupids.

Marco.

newsflash

Quote from: allcanadian on January 31, 2009, 01:57:23 PM
Note you have said "ENERGY", the conservation of energy dictates that you cannot get less energy out than you put in or more because when ------ALL----- forms of energy are accounted for input must equal output. You are confusing useful energy with all forms of energy in general, it does not matter if the energy is useful or not it is always conserved 100% of it, this is unity-----this is basic physics.

Yes, I understand that. What we're dealing with IS useful energy. You can't make a free energy device if the energy coming out is useless heat, because you need another system to collect that heat, which also loses heat. Do you see how this works? All devices are inefficient because of a loss of heat.

Aaaaanyway, overunity doesn't come into any of this. You can never have more energy out than in. Just admit that overunity doesn't exist, and then we can start talking about real free energy devices. You know, ones that get energy from solar or other sources in the Universe.

ramset

Newsflash

Perhaps you could explain

How does a 300 F hydrogen gas flame become a 3200 F Flame with no variables changed ??

Except you hold it [the300F flame]against Titanium

Thats 10 times more out than in

      Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

turbo

The explenation has already been given.

It would be appropriate to say more energy out then you have to pay for.
For example if you put in let's say 100 Watts and the device put's out 1000 Watts, and you are only paying for the 100 Watts you put in, then You have 900Watts for free.
This can be labeld "overunity" but offcource it is not.
The 900 Watts have to come from somewhere.

Marco.