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Overunity Machines Forum



HydroMeyers Vic

Started by Spewing, January 31, 2009, 03:02:14 AM

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ramset

Dankie

This thread [I HOPE} Is about the advancement of Stan Meyer's Tech
The VIC being foremost in importance .I hope you don't perceive me as a threat[why would anyone as smart as you feel threatened??], it is my intention to follow this through OPENSOURCE

And I need a TORCH Give me a TORCH[''on paper'', low watt high production] and I will leave you to your injector

Tell Brian I will send him a laser thermometer put that 300-700F flame he has up against a piece of titanium or tungsten [which I will send him with the thermometer]

And he will see a 10 fold increase in heat [if he has the right lpm going to that torch of his]

More to come

Chet



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Thanks Grandma

dankie

Look ramset , you can even change the injector shape for different effect and keep the same VIC .

ramset

Dankie

Why would I build an injector LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY

All I need Is a simple torch [of course I need PRODUCTION at low watts]

What you are doing with your Vic [maybe mine too] is great

I personally NEVER said anything derogatory about your wire[Stans wire] choice for that vic

I am not here to waste anyones time

More to come

Chet



Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

dankie

Quote from: ramset on March 07, 2009, 01:32:10 PM
Dankie

Why would I build an injector LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY

All I need Is a simple torch [of course I need PRODUCTION at low watts]

What you are doing with your Vic [maybe mine too] is great

I personally NEVER said anything derogatory about your wire[Stans wire] choice for that vic

I am not here to waste anyones time

More to come

Chet





If you are too poor to have a piece of metal machined or know somebody who can do it for free than I suggest you give up this hobby . As I said before the logistics and cost will hit you straight in the face , this isnt fairy tale land .

I know other people who are not very rich , but we support them and equip them and send them the special machined parts because we value their skills and we know they can bring something to the table .

ramset

Dankie

You interpret a compromise as begging?

I have never made a part ,machine ,tool , that didn't work as intended when I shipped it

I had no idea you had a working system ready to ship!!

The way that you responded to Brians torch pic, it seemed like a Eureka moment for you?

Of course Brian's torch pic is impressive ,but with out watts used  information ???

I guess you are making a business out of this? Every man is entitled to his path and living

I choose OPEN SOURCE !!  And now I see ""YOUR ""point
 
The world is presently going to hell in a hand basket ,open source is needed'' NOW''

More to come
                                  From another user THE BUZZ
Meyer used a laser to sustain the time of the reaction in a sub critical state - to prevent the recombination of the H and the O atoms. Meyer used high voltage AND high frequency to sustain the reaction time in the cylinder. What Meyer did not do is pump hydrogen into the intake manifold.

It is possible to produce such a intake system but the intake air must be converted into oxides (ozone O4) and nitrogen radicals (NOS) using high voltage and laser light. We call this reaction a laser cathode accelerator and this is what Meyer's air/gas processor did.

"Nobody thought of using an accelerator before" - Stan Meyer

Then that ionized gas is mixed with water mist and the ionized gas absorbs the covalent bond electrons that bond H2O and causes the water to become unstable and combustible. This is a chemistry term we call bond cleaving here in the US.

We want to make the water go from very high pressure to very low pressure while that ionized air and water are being mixed. (This is what Meyer called fracturing) The pressure change causes the water to split to steam and HHO and the laser again prevents recombination.
                 
                           More from the BUZZ
Hydrocars demonstrated that if you arc a plasma to a HHO flame, the flame roughly doubles in size. This is a method of electron extraction and the flame is larger since the mass got smaller and so you release more thermal energy when it recombines back into water. This is not how Meyer did it but interesting just the same. Unfortunately he seems to have deleted the video  - go figure.

Actually in the end the air gas processor was probably not needed. The version of Meyer in those photos did use exhaust gas just as Meyer stated. That is why there are three needle valves - hydrogen, exhaust gas and ambient air.

The exhaust system was an oxide radical gold mine which is what the air gas processor does, made the air a free radical to remove/absorb the electrons during the firing process.

In the end, I doubt as you say that it was needed but in the end, Meyer had improved the technology.

The other information you provided is interesting but as always, suspect for you are the Dankei.

When Chris banned you from OUPower, I secretly went to bat for you. I started a thread called "Save the Dankie" and pressed Chris in a series of emails regarding you to the point where Chris offered to ban me too.

An hour ago, I posted a step by step on Meyer. Within an hour, the entire thread was deleted. I will ban myself from oupower - the arm pit of humanity.

Not sure who you are and quite frankly don't care, this turfing must end. Otherwise this is only going to happen for a few people. Is that your goal?

My background is technical and I understand a common mode choke (bifilar coil next to core) when I see one. That is what splits the positive and sends it in two directions. Plus and negative charge.

I understand a pulse or trigger transformer when I see one. That is what the sets of bifilar coils around the outside do and they modulate the step charge coming from the primary.

A good example of this technology is a seismograph. The shaker truck goes through several harmonic frequencies filling the ground with vibration of a range of frequencies one at a time increasing the energy absorption of the ground. When it stops vibrating, the geophones listen. Replace the geophones with an amp consuming device that get's switched in between the plates at the point and the water gives up electrons in order to return to stable state. Lather, rinse, repeat.

So how that exact version worked or what is was driving is irrelevant. Your claim that it drive the spark plugs is false. That was done by the magneto on the distributor. That VIC, and there were several on the buggy at one point, drove the air gas processor.

Dankie I don't plan on having EXHAUST GAS TO UTILIZE IN THE FURNACE

More to come
Chet



Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma