HydroMeyers Vic

[ramset]

  Info from user the Buzz
There is  a wire type that would work and it would be perfect for the job since it is a copper and stainless steel composite. That wire is used to damp ringing in high frequency lines. The center conductor of many coax cables are made that way.

Now why do you think we need to damp ringing? Maybe it is because the coil shown, and Meyer's patent, both have many taps and as we hit those taps in rapid succession, it causes ringing. That is how Meyer step charged his cell at some point.

In his rotary pulse generator the voltage stepped up 8 times and you can prove that by looking at the end plate of the rotary generator. In that VIC transformer photo, we see 8 sets of outer primary winding pairs or common more chokes.

Now why would Meyer do that? I'm guessing it is because water is diamagnetic which makes it reflect a pulsed charge causing a massive impedance which rapidly changes as the gas bubbles form between the plates.

Think of it this way  - If your car is stuck in the snow and to run at the car and hit it with all your force, you will dent the car and hurt yourself and the car will not move. But... what if you slowly rock the car back and forth, each time pushing harder? Then the car moves and gets unstuck. That is why you go from high amp to high volts in rapid successive pulses. (Step Charging)

Attached is an image from Meyer's patent US5149407 Notice how the transformer is tapped? That is just a representational patent drawing, not a schematic. It is designed to fool you but anyone with even the most basic understanding of magnetics understands two things.

1. The VIC photo has multiple primaries and is most likely acting as an accelerator with the pancake coils.

Now there is another possibility.. When you hit H2 gas with UV and a high voltage, it transmutes into H1 and a huge blast of electricity is produced. This is why Meyer said the CENTER ELECTRODE could be used for energy recapture. Many free energy devices in the past used this process.

Now in order to switch the two ground plane contacts off to the side of the center electrode (VIC), you would need a bunch of resistive wire or you would blow the mosfets up. In fact, you would also want to build a choke to block that huge burst of current. Those outer coils could also be what is known as common mode chokes. The schematic in MeyerPhotos.zip indicates that unless the copper/stainless steel wire is used.

But wait, the high voltage is coming from the spark plug wire. Now why would we need to generate more high voltage inside the injector? What we really need is a way to switch the two ground electrodes. See what I am saying? In that case we would want to use resistive wire.


Now for Meyer...
Stan got rid of the tube cell in short order when he realized it was not really needed. Stan found that by ionizing the air and mixing that with water, the ozone he produced would split the water when it was mixed, compressed, expanded and hit with an arc. The arc is the "dead short" .

Even on Stan's first dune buggy, 1/3 of the back end was covered with a big metal box filled with nickle plates generating ozone. That and the tiny amount of hydrogen he was producing in his tube cell was enough to make a VW engine idle as long as the rotary pulse generator was plugged into his house. So Stan was really just transferring power from his house current to his engine that day. Once he figured out the value of the photolytic process of hydrogen production, things got better and he could run the engine just fine.
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I Ramset knows the photolytic process Meyer used, I disclosed it to him.'' edit chet'' [and I disclosed it here]                                   

Nobody works together, nobody shares information - just what some people want.

If you really want to run a car on water, you are going to have to let go of your silly tube cells and learn the photolytic process. There is not one single picture of Meyer driving down the road with a tube cell on the back of that dune buggy. The reason the [derogatory word] don't get that is they would not know the difference between a UV / ionized gas generator tube, a tube cell or the injector if you shoved it up their poop shoot. Everyone just assumes that it is inside the milk can just like they assume this web site is promoting free energy.

If Hartman really is interested in creating a free energy web site that can produce results, he is going to have to find someone to moderate out the spooks and [derogatory word]. As it is, the fox is renting the hen house.

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Chet

[AhuraMazda]

Now there is another possibility.. When you hit H2 gas with UV and a high voltage, it transmutes into H1 and a huge blast of electricity is produced. This is why Meyer said the CENTER ELECTRODE could be used for energy recapture. Many free energy devices in the past used this process.

@Chet
Please expand on the above comment and do you have any other references to this subject?

[ramset]

AhuraMazda

The Buzz left comments all through his posts about this ,things happening on a molecular level, getting atoms into a certain state [unnatural]keeping them in that state, and making moments of opportunity
where you can take advantage of this imbalance , before nature  restores order

These posts are a gold mine of info with bits and pieces mixed in with other comments edit[which I delete, just post the meat]

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The VIC is the ground side of the circuit. The water mixed with ionized radicals is the positive side of the circuit. Da!

The highest voltage mosfet I own is around 900 volts. Without all that stainless RESISTIVE wire between the charged water and the mosfet you will smoke the mosfets.

The air/gas processor is in the back end of the injector in later model. Under the plastic cover by the spark plug wire is a filter and needle valve where the air goes in through an aspirator, gets radicalized by the gas gun (ozone), goes down through the center insulated tube / electrode, enters the tiny little resonant cavities and mixes with the water, hits the spray grills and "FRACTURES" hits gets further compressed in the taper resonant cavity where it hits the two ground electrodes and explodes.

The two electrodes are connected to the vic coil which is made of stainless so they don't donate electrons back to the water (LIMIT CURRENT FLOW) the SS coil does resonate and then gets switched to ground through the mosfets. The chokes limit current going to the mosfets.

The connector that controls the mosfets is on the side (Three contacts) The center contact is positive which drives the LED lasers in the gas gun and this process all happens in a fraction of a second.

Water going to the injector is at 120PSI.

That is how it  works. I built it a year ago with the plasma electrolysis which has been on my site ever since. Only one person to my knowledge ever had the  brains to put the plasma tube before the cell to produce those radical (O3 - O4) atoms  - me. It is called bond cleaving in general and .

Oh yeah, if you want to draw energy from the circuit, connect it to that outer bifilar coil. I am pretty sure that connected to the resonant cavity boxes on the side which should contain a cap and a diode which is charged opposite the water so the water and gas exchange electrons. (bond cleaving)

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                      General info from the Linderman group  [H3O -OH hypergas [the brass ring]
                    And Samuel Friedman Here  http://www.free-energy.ws/samuel-freedman.html

HYDROGEN: Hydrogen has been proclaimed to be the fuel of the future. Hydrogen is an extremely abundant element, as it is the major component of water (H2O). Hydrogen can be liberated from water with an electrical process called electrolysis, using any source of electricity available. When burned, hydrogen recombines with oxygen to form water vapor with no other pollutants. From an environmental point of view, you can see the appeal of hydrogen as a fuel.

Depending on how it is done, water electrolysis can produce three different products. 1) Separate hydrogen and oxygen gases, 2) an electrically expanded water molecule referred to as "Brown's Gas", or 3) a very volatile gas mixture referred to as "hyper-gas". Some people believe this extremely explosive gas is H3O-OH. Others believe that this gas contains free hydrogen atoms, which are known to be more explosive than H2 molecules. Whatever it is, this last, most energetic product of electrolysis, seems to be the key to efficient use of hydrogen fuel from water.

Hydrogen and oxygen can also be produced by a special alloy invented by Samuel Freedman that spontaneously dissociates water. This discovery could make hydrogen available at very low cost, if commercialized. There are also other alloys that can catalyze the dissociation of water in the presence of low levels of heat.

There have also been proprietary methods of water electrolysis that can produce large amounts of hydrogen with relatively small amounts of electricity developed by Stan Meyer, Xogen, and others.

One thing is for sure. Hydrogen fuel is in our future.
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[Farrah Day]

AM

can you still get access to mouserebellion.com forums or is the website down at present?

[AhuraMazda]

ramsat,
can you post your own work and stop being a little grunt messenger bringing information from the buzz? so if you are getting info from buzz and sharing it, what does he go by these days on the forum? also why is the buzz using stainless.. i thought he mad a big deal out of dankies stainless saying its not nessasary?

outlawsrc

@outlawsrc

Your posts are all insidious and pointless. If you don't want to contribute or are not interested in an intelligent dialogue, just go away and leave us to it you sad sorry individual.