DEK motor with U-coreless coil or Lenz boxing against Lentz

[woopy]

@all

Everything is going fast today  whaouuuu!! 

thanks to the idea of Khabe  i made a further investigation and find out that  a " train " of 3 magnets is powerfull and than i made a test of what happens outside the UCC and the flux is also there but of course in the counter way  so i think to take out the whole power of a UCC  we can do like this ( attached drawing see polarities)

OK  i think we approach a way to get a torquy low speed DEK motor   and now   the timing    reedswitch   hallswitch  optoswitch  frictionswitch  otherswitch  ??      and for the nextstep  and the highpowerchampion how about the power stage     and finally  for the electronicdoctors  how about to recuperate the collapsing field ??

cheers

Laurent

[Kator01]

Sorry gyulasun,

too much traffic going on at the moment in my mind - got it all mixed up.

See attached pic with corrected diode-position.

Kator01

[BEP]

i tried the 8 UCC and also a 8XUCC

the 8UCC attract strongly the magnet to it's center but as the magnet is twisted 90 degree in comparison with the UCC the magnet is also attracted sideway  against the coil.  Inside the UCC the pulse current pushes the magnet from one side to the other.  Feel free to test yourself it so easy to do and full of learning Wink        in the 8xUCC this a"bordel" flux path Huh

Is your pet of the Bordel breed?

I see your magnet orientation would do exactly as you have said. My suggestion was a variation of the transverse flux method. It will not work with your magnet orientation. Sorry 

[tishatang]

Laurent and All

I may be crazy and getting old and senile, but yesterday was a day of synchronicity for me.  On the same day this thread was started there was this post on the Gray tube thread here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6675.msg154832;topicseen#msg154832

Referencing this video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azfxP9lBAao

The application is applying high voltage static electricity across the coil and opposite polarity to the low voltage DC current.  The collision creates extreme motive power not attained by just the low voltage.

Laurent, design your motor with this high voltage potential across the coil in mind.  Maybe this the way to get your power with light weight, no cores necessary.  This is a new ball game and the known laws of flux density with a given current will have to be rewritten. 

If this works, no need to have large gauge wire to carry large current adding weight.  Maybe you could salvage windings from old TV yokes.  Then carefully re-bend them to your configuration.  This would give you four coils per yoke of finer many turns coils ready made.  Then choose a bicycle wheel diameter in proportion to the resulting size coil for your prototype.  You could use the fly-back transformer of the TV for the high voltage source.  Maybe someone has a photo for Laurent of an old yoke to see what I am talking about?

You could attach an insulated wire, or maybe a rubber strap on you airplane behind the propeller.  Maybe just a piece of coax cable?  Attached a wire to the leading edge and a wire to the trailing edge.   These wires would be brought in and connected to the motor coils in the correct polarity.  The airstream flowing over the wire should generate high voltage static electricity?

Anyway, food for thought.
Chris

[Kator01]

Hi Chris,

absolutly no idea how the high voltage is applied in this setup.
A lot of talking about weak magnets etc but no circuit-diagram how he applied the hv.

Any idea or better knowledge how this is done ?

What I could get from the vid is that he fires a sparkplug  not using the gap but a black cable which might lead the
hv-discharge-current in one part of the coil. So this would mean that there is no static-electricity there is a puls.
And if there is a puls then there is current and this is not a small amount of current .

Kator01



Regards

Kator01