DEK motor with U-coreless coil or Lenz boxing against Lentz

[woopy]

and now let's go forward

1-- the first  aim is to make a motor and it seems to be possible   so how to improve it in the terms of high torque at slow spinning  "  YES WE CAN "

2-  is it possible to get returning energy from the collapsing field in the UCC (U-CorelessCoil) to improve the  ultralight flight duration. ?

so  (as i  recently posted some of this informations  in the Perepiteia thread ) i  got from one participant of thi forum under nick name Nali2001 a circuit to get this energy back    and i made it   and it works which is very encouraging

an other friend pmed me to try if it would be possible to get some generating possibilities by using a separate coil and the influence onthe main rotor

here the set up

and tomorrow the result



i hope that this thread will be of interest

regards


Laurent

[khabe]

Yes it works,
Was ca 6...7 years ago (perhaps earlier ... or later ...) somewhere in German site,
Was disk magnets, axially magnetized ...perimetrically SN..NS...SN...NS ...
I found this link address when did read interesting stuff in some kind of Yahoo forum about electric motors ... LRK or ... who knows, dont remember ...
Father and son in Germany, both engineers, invented and patented ... was also 3-phase machine,
Was detailed description, explanations, drawings, pictures ...
I have tried to find again it several times during past few years - no way,
Perhaps some Deutscher Sprache member can help,

Cheers,
khabe

But you want to fly?
Im not sceptic - not at all, I like to build motors and I have built a lot of ... included "fly-able" ones,
But ... in principle I dont believe you can get any serious power from such kind of design ... main reason is
missing of flux returning parts from outer side - its funny and interesting thing - nice experiments , but not machine you need.

[khabe]

and now let's go forward

1-- the first  aim is to make a motor and it seems to be possible   so how to improve it in the terms of high torque at slow spinning  "  YES WE CAN "

2-  is it possible to get returning energy from the collapsing field in the UCC (U-CorelessCoil) to improve the  ultralight flight duration. ?

so  (as i  recently posted some of this informations  in the Perepiteia thread ) i  got from one participant of thi forum under nick name Nali2001 a circuit to get this energy back    and i made it   and it works which is very encouraging

an other friend pmed me to try if it would be possible to get some generating possibilities by using a separate coil and the influence onthe main rotor

here the set up

and tomorrow the result



i hope that this thread will be of interest

regards


Laurent

Mh-mhh,
Seems there you are doing wrongly.
Are these flat restangle magnets N in one side and S on another?
If yes then NO WAY!
Flux need to be by direction of circumference ... and placed as I described in my past message ->SN<->NS<- distance between adequate to size of your "coils".
cheers,
khabe

[woopy]

@Knabe

thank's for interest

please  understand that i already fly with electric motors  and it works  very well       and what i am looking for        is not evasive ore  negative answer to a proposal solution      but your help to  improve 

and reach if it is possible a practical reality in full scale


so if you have something for helping you'r welcome 


@all

if you can post photos or drawings of your proposals  it would be very helpfull

thank's


happy landing

Laurent

[tishatang]

Hi Laurent

Here is a link to circuits to help capture the bemf of pulsed coils.  It explains the design concepts to help you understand why you would choose one design over another. 

http://www.totallyamped.net/adams/

If you succeed in building such a motor the concepts could be applied to a bicycle hub motor.  There would be a large market for such a motor, especially if it doubled the distance traveled on a given battery.  The market is in China where there are millions of Ebikes and Escooters.

Chris