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Started by Magnethos, February 02, 2009, 08:37:03 PM

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PaulLowrance

Hi wattsup,

They're aware of that, which is why they use the equation -->

E = 0.5 C V^2

Note that the "^2" in the equation. That means the voltage is squared.

The way they're calculating the energy is correct. What they need to do is determine the capacitance since electrolytic are a bit dynamic capacitance.

PL

wattsup

@PL

Thanks for the clarification. I would think that showing work would be the best way since the conclusion is a high enough COP, work should show the difference well enough.

OK back to work myself.

duff

Quote from: robbie47 on March 11, 2009, 12:14:31 PM
Wouldn't the use of relay's work better?
Relay's normally would have very reliable contact plates.
You could always use the rotor to power the relay coils.


Quote from: PaulLowrance on March 11, 2009, 12:48:12 PM
Even better yet a 400+ volt transistor.

PL

Yes is would be easier however using relays or transistors does not allow for trying different metals combinations for the contact switching.


-Duff

Edit:
Quote from: duff on March 09, 2009, 04:53:51 PM
It appears to me that at the moment of the pulse the cap is charge to 24v and then inductor acquires its energy/charge after which the circuit is disconnected and the bemf of the inductor is released through the single wire connection to the capacitor.

The above statement I made is incorrect.
It appears the capacitor is shorted out while the inductor is charging...

xenomorphlabs

QuoteYes is would be easier however using relays or transistors does not allow for trying different metals combinations for the contact switching.

After the best metal combination is found, he can modify a relay and replace the contact materials
with the metals he wants. With a bit of manual skill this should be no problem.

By the way, very tiring to read through this thread.. Instead of attacking the guy, why not actively help confirm and/or disprove the experiment? That would be scientific.

duff

With reference to the above drawaing: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6734.msg162581#msg162581

I did some initial testing of the circuit with poor results. The battery voltage fluctuates wildly (mostly negative). Putting a scope across the battery shows 20+ volt spikes, both positive and negative in the same instant. I think the fluctuation are due to the load placed on the battery as the three brushes hit the shorting bar. I varied the motor speed between 300/800 rpms and  did not observe any charging effect.


The commutators were made of a 3/4" copper plumbing coupling, filled with JB Weld and then drilled & threaded so as to screw onto the motor shaft. Three channels were then cut so as to isolate the brush from each other and a shorting bar left intact so the three brushes connected when crossing. For the brushes I used #24 copper magwire with the ends bare (copper to copper contact).


With reference to the wire in the circuit that  seemingly shorts the capacitor ( In the drawing its the middle brush). I already made comments about it in two previous posts but as it turns out it does NOT prevent the capacitor from charging (obviously the circuit works) but I found that totally non-intuitive.


-Duff