Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel

[AB Hammer]

wattsup

I looked at your sight and I saw some very good work there. As per what Ralph is teasing me on a wheel I called, googly eyed. I keep it around for fun any other use is it shows what not to do. LOL

[BAHammer]

BAHammer,

As per your explanation I ask that you look at the design and consider the weight position, without focusing on the cam and ratchets.  You will find the same prime example of a non-runner as depicted in Bessler's drawings MT #1 through 5, 9, 10, and 11. It's commonly called 'Changing height for width.

If you believe you can patent this as a runner, I look forward to obtaining your patent drawings.

Ralph
 

  Ralph,
You should get an idea from the modifications I made. When the weight passes top center, the current latch design would not hold the weight in place.
By having the latch also be a lever, a line can go from there to another latch/lever combination. It would be one that holds the weight in an over balanced position. Like Mt 20, it would have an over balanced, balanced and under balanced position.
When the weights force on the inner latch is greater than another weights force on it's latch, it would be able to lift the other weigfht a little allowing it to move free from it's latch and swing. This type of arrangement would link 2 weights together so there release points after passing top center can be controlled.
One trick to the design is that the weights can hang from their pivot points after passing near bottom center. The weights would also be able to swing between the supports (arms) that would be on both sides. This would allow the weights to swing onto the inner latch after they pass top center.
This type of set up would need a 6 or 8 weight configuration. This would allow the 2 bottom weights and the top 2 weights to basically cancel each other out. This would leave the weights around the level of the axle that would have a balanced and over balanced position.
And I doubt anyone would consider something like this to be a Bessler Wheel.

edited to change pics and at position 3, that weight would be a little more outward, possibly.
So, I guess 2 & 3 being over balanced could compensate for position 1 being under balanced, or something like that.

[AB Hammer]

  Ralph,
You should get an idea from the modifications I made. When the weight passes top center, the current latch design would not hold the weight in place.
By having the latch also be a lever, a line can go from there to another latch/lever combination. It would be one that holds the weight in an over balanced position. Like Mt 20, it would have an over balanced, balanced and under balanced position.
When the weights force on the inner latch is greater than another weights force on it's latch, it would be able to lift the other weigfht a little allowing it to move free from it's latch and swing. This type of arrangement would link 2 weights together so there release points after passing top center can be controlled.
One trick to the design is that the weights can hang from their pivot points after passing near bottom center. The weights would also be able to swing between the supports (arms) that would be on both sides. This would allow the weights to swing onto the inner latch after they pass top center.
This type of set up would need a 6 or 8 weight configuration. This would allow the 2 bottom weights and the top 2 weights to basically cancel each other out. This would leave the weights around the level of the axle that would have a balanced and over balanced position.
And I doubt anyone would consider something like this to be a Bessler Wheel.

edited to change pics and at position 3, that weight would be a little more outward, possibly.
So, I guess 2 & 3 being over balanced could compensate for position 1 being under balanced, or something like that.

LMAO  ROLMAO  You really need to build that Jim/BAHammer  LMAO

[hansvonlieven]

Yes Alan 

Hans von Lieven

[BAHammer]

LMAO  ROLMAO  You really need to build that Jim/BAHammer  LMAO

  @ Alan and Hans,
It would take a while, but I might.
Of course, I thought you would point out the obvious Alan. Everybody knows Bessler said that weights work in pairs. That doesn't happen in this design. I'd say with 8 independent weights, it's moving a lot of dead weight.
This means that every other weight can be removed. This would leave the design with 4 swinging weights.
Then the question becomes, how to move the swinging weights for maximum efficiency ? The simple answer is to use a long lever . Something that would be like a torque wrench.
Of course, the ratio aspect would need to be changed. For this, we'd have to go to "how a grandfather clock works". Basically, have the torque wrench turn one wheel and have a wheel next to that one turning the swinging weight.
Then the swinging weight can be held by a latch when it's over balanced position is attained. What we end up with is "Alex, I'll take what Mt drawing for $1,000.00". And the answer is "what is Mt 20".
I don't think this is really fair Alan. I mean really, I take time to consider what Bessler said and what principles he used. Of course, i also know mechanics and how grandfather clocks work :-)
By the way, with this configuration, if the wheel were to be pushed in the opposite direction, it would work the same way. The difference would be it would rely on an under balance instead of over balance.
Just as his clue states next to the drawing. In reality, it's being hitched on one side depends on which way it is rotating. Why ? Because how the lever is connected to the wheel it acts on doesn't change !!!
But will I build it ? No, this won't happen. I have my own personal responsibilities to take care of.

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