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[0c]

Bull!!!  And it's odd that you are still defending him!

I think you are guiltier in this respect than Al is. You have claimed overunity for your devices and encouraged others to build them. How many experimenters have produced usable power from a diode array? You have also done much more than Al to promote your device. So where does that leave you? How many hobbiests have been taken in by your shameless promotion?

[PaulLowrance]

I think you are guiltier in this respect than Al is. You have claimed overunity for your devices and encouraged others to build them. How many experimenters have produced usable power from a diode array? You have also done much more than Al to promote your device. So where does that leave you? How many hobbiests have been taken in by your shameless promotion?

Your intent is obvious. I have clearly posted the exact power levels my diode arrays have produced. I have made it very clear the tests are for the purpose of verifying that diodes rectify ambient thermal energy. Nobody has been taken by my claims, and in fact *everyone* that has built the diode array has measured a DC voltage -->

* I measured a DC voltage.
* Tom Schum has recently admitted that his diode measurements showed that his diode array produced a DC voltage.
* Charles M. Brown claimed that in 1993 he sent his THz diode array to a company that measured a DC voltage.
* And an anonomous person on my site claims that he and his co-workers, including a senior EE, have verified my claim.

I have provided *every* detail, including part numbers -->
http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?board=15.0

So it is very clear who you support. It is well known that Al has seriously hurt the "free energy" community. And my claims about diode arrays is very clear. I have opened to allow *anyone* to test my diode arrays. I have challenged the Randi organization. I have provided all of the detailed mathematics based on conventional physics, which is based on quantum physics.


To legitimate people, I think these people are getting disparate because they see they can no longer delay the inevitible, global free energy.

PL

[PaulLowrance]

For a long time you know what I have looked forward to. It may take a long time before science reaches the point, but I look forward to a history camera that can allow us to view the past. Then, all of humanity will see who these people are, and their family will be ashamed to have the same last name.

PL

[0c]

Your intent is obvious.

If it's so obvious, just what is my intent?

Just because one individual doesn't comply with your demands doesn't give you the right to start accusing him of deceit. Hell, he doesn't do what I want him to either, but that's between me and him. I don't go dragging Paul Lowrance and his diode arrays and magnetic viscosity motors into our WhipMag discussions.

As far as I can tell, you were unjustifiably badmouthing another group of researchers, a group that I am closely associated with. In our group, I see none of the deceitful intent you have accused us of. Each of us has fully accepted the risks and financial burdens of our efforts.

I have probably done much more talking about the concept than anyone. Most of what I have done was simply to try and get some feedback on the ideas. I'm mostly looking for reasoned and evidence-based discussion of a concept. There was even a time when you discussed some of this with me.

I thought this thread was about Steorn's Orbo. Why not keep it on topic. If you have good or bad things to say about Steorn, go ahead.

[PaulLowrance]

These people (or is it just one person posting under multiple user names with multiple ISP's) seem to like circular conversations, having the last word, saying a lot of silly statements that results in getting peoples minds off the simple truths such as Al claims his motor ran for over 7 hours and he physically stopped it, all started with the flick of his rist, but he throws it in the trash, refuses to allow known scientists test it, has no interest in making money from it, so if he wasn't a scam artist (interested in money) and won't allow scientists to analyze it then Al's intent is obvious, to distract and burn out legitimate "free energy" researchers, period.

Oc can have the last word, it is very clear what is happening. I reserve the right to reply with, "OC, I have addressed that. I disagree with you. No more circular conversations."

PL