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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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DreamThinkBuild

Hi Magluvin,

I'm not sure of this sim because I was working on a similar circuit a while back over on this thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9111.0

I could get it up to 50KW before the sim would crash out. I have never replicated a real circuit of it. I also have another circuit sim that will run a 15 ohm resistor as a heating element up over 1KW from a 5v input which isn't posted.

Magluvin

Hi Dreams

I do get times when it stops due to errors. Like the 2 switches I had to use in the first large circuit above, for some reason, if the is a diode in an open end circuit with another component, she will error. But if you disconnect one end of the diode strings, no error. And it mostly happens when the lrc is oscillating. But in the real world we might not need to use both switches.

In the first circuit, if you understand how the charging circuit turns 20kv into almost 40kv, its sort of the same way the LRC is amplifying the input, just in a unidirectional way.

When we release the discharge cap from the L in the lrc, the L has all this built up potential, still headed in the same direction of current, and it bangs into mr tiny cap. And tiny cap may be small, but with the right voltage breakdown value, it will take the hit and send it right back.
A larger cap would be soft to the inductors potential, thus lower freq.

I use to do a lot of  BEMF  collecting, but I now see FEMF.    Maybe the bemf is a result of the forward emf potential swinging all the way forward, and then bemf. So maybe the FEMF has a bit more potential than its sibling BEMF.  If you watch the precharging circuit in action, the coil builds up during the charge of the discharge cap, and once the cap equals the source voltage, the inductor isnt done yet, and it sucks more from the source than what it should have dumped into the cap normally.  This is negative resistance.  Once the cap is at source voltage level, the source should have no desire to dump any more into the cap. But the inductor had inertia of sorts and it created a load, negative resistance, for the source and pumped it into the cap to the tune of a 2 for 1

But from all that I have read so far, what is happening in these circuits should be somewhere in the ball park.

Higher voltage in the circuit, the longer the oscillations will continue while shaving off some output. 7v    12v    120v   from 400kv

When I first thought of the diode strings to give the oscillator a path to continue oscillations, I thought that then I could put a high value R load without killing the oscillations, and it worked, but I did not consider the voltage drops at the time and my voltage across the load was only 5v, and my high load got nada much. so I lowered the ohms, then more, then added more in parallel and the more I put, the longer the oscillations lasted, due to low R in the LRC, and I got tremendous power out.   I played with this a good bit before I disclosed any of it.  And I believe this is good stuff.  I would love for someone with another sim to try the same to see what we can come up with here.

Mags


Magluvin

Oh   Forest

I just got a prog to capture screen video    I have to check it out and see what I come up with to record this.

Good to hear from ya buddy  =]

Mags

Magluvin

Hey DreamThinker
I looked at the circuit you presented.  I cannot say for sure, but it looks like when the switch disconnects from the inductor, that it is singing on its own. I think that the program has a hard time with diodes and having disconnects with the diode still connected to the active passive device, the inductor.  Probably in most circuitry, these situations would not be in place and all components are connected at both ends to some other circuit.

In your sim, the switch on the right opens, and the inductor should continue the current flow through the diode, but then it can not pull from the diode in the opposite direction, say bemf, if any energy is left after dumping what it had through the diode. But I seriously doubt that the inductor would retain any potential across its leads after the switch was opened.  I am supposing here.   BUT

Lets say that the switch opens, yet the inductor, with its inertia mechanism, forces more electrons than it has holes for through the diode to the source, and it may do so easily, being that the source is accepting all incoming.
Now, What might go on in the inductor, with its oscillations, if it had many open holes? Missing electrons.  Would that affect the self capacitance and the inductance, and could it be an ingredient needed to pull from the vacuum?  I never really thought of any of this before now. Im just spittin it as I type here. 

Charge the coil as you show, then disconnect the coil from the circuit on the opposite side of the diode, and the inductor pushes many electrons through the diode and they cannot get back to the inductor. The coil should be 1 big positive charge just waiting for its babies to come home.  Would it just be a static charge? Static.   Is a positive electrode on a battery static when not connected to a load?

I would not put this one down till some experimenting is done, on a safe level.  At first I fully assumed that when the inductor lost its top connection, that how could the inductor retain a potential across itself connected 1 ended to a diode that will only provide and exit and no come back.
Maybe the program does not know what to do with this rectified static, and it shows it some way some how.
I would say give it a shot. Start with low inputs at first and see what a couple pulses will produce.
If it is static, if you provide an earth ground with a spark gap to the static inductor, maybe the babies wil come home, except they will be someone elses babies. lol

I will post this on your thread and here at Energy Amplification



Magluvin

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Here is another circuit hat I designed for one of my big coils I used in my pulse motors. 2mh .42ohm and I bought some 561nf 1kv caps that come in an asortment pack from RS and each pack has 4 of these lil bad boys. Have 16.
But with the right combo of the caps, I think I can stay in the realm of just a couple of kv according to the sim.

This one will show the input power on the source side 2 ohm resistor(right bottom) and the R of the LRC 2 ohm resistor( top left).
The input takes about 1.2 kw peak and a bit more to charge the cap, and the output lasts just as long as the input charge, but is over 2kw peak.   More power out than in.     


To run the sim,  close the switch on the right and hold til the 1000uf cap is charged, and notice the last scope as it shows the power used to charge the cap through the 2 ohm resistor.
Then press and hold the left switch and watch the scope of the cap and dont release till the green line hits 0 in the middle of the graph and let go, and watch the next to the last scope, as this shows the output power expended into the R of the LRC  2 ohm resistor.
Twice the output as the input, and not at some crazy high freq and not 400 kv or vaporizing coils.


Mags