ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Magluvin]

Sorry, My pics above are not in order according to my post.  The one labled normal collapse is suppose to be first, then the one with the high voltage on the inductors scope shot on the left.

I tried to fix it, but I am in moderation for arguments with Milehigh. So I have limited functionality at the moment. 

Mags

[a.king21]

Yes.  Without reversing the current.
maybe not; a AA batter is current limited.  The coil inductance would have to be very large, which, without very large conductors to reduce the resistance per length; which increases capacitance per length... and requires more current.


So No.  there is a limit to the power of an AA battery...
maybe... given enough time; but with too much time, self inductance will cancel the current also...


Yes, if I can replace the battery with a super cap charged to 1.2V with the same (or less) Joules stored.... because the current isn't as limited.


Excessive current on the AA will create a notable Heat reaction, which will accelerate the current it can produce, which produces more heat, and that will be another limiting point.

Quit posting bollox on this site and do the experiment.
No cap. Nothing else.

[d3x0r]

Re Mass and 'physical' models


I've really been trying to conceive of hydrodynamic equivalents instead...


A pipe of a certain diameter is a resistor... it limits the flow of current for a certain pressure (voltage)
Air bubbles are capacitance ( water hammer vertical resevoirs )


The mass of water itself is inductance. (working theory)


Sometimes there's boundary conditions in the current.


If I have to pipes of different diameter, I get a large capacity to a low capacity.  Usually, I get a mass flow.  Basically a bunch of junk (jumbled up particles without order) just is shoved through the pipes.
Sometimes, I get a vortex effect that will extend from the top pipe all the way to the lower pipe.  This changes the effective flow through both. 


90% of the time the apparatus empties before votecing.  This is the 99% of electrical engineering that is worked within.  If there is a cavitation, where vaporization happens within the system, then vortexing can happen....


1% of the time, and I have no clue how to stimulate it ... I've have a vortexing of water... at a high pressure.  It often happens when the currents are very low... (lighter, less mass flowing)


which is an interaction between atomsphere and the water medium, changes the flow characteristics of the (inductive medium if that mass...)

but then a pipe is also a large coil (inductor)

maybe there's a better restrictive thing.

a diode:
A Ratcheting mechanism... where if a mechanism does no work against another, and then latches in the other direction to impart motion... a check valve in a hydraulic system.. a simple ball of larger diameter.  This ball will be self stabilizing because of coanda effects... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uArp20XjH-o

I guess most of hydraulic systems then are EMF based; a perspective of induction; So electrostatics don't apply so much.

Oh... Is Vortexing the thing that allows a reverse action in another coil inductor?  (coil? )

Transformers I almost got for mechanical... but how does one flow next to another flow affect this system?  Maybe there is no transformer?  Although I can attach a tesla turbine in one flow, and an axel to another turbine in another flow and use an external force for leverage....

So also vortexing will be destroyed with an AC system.... unless it happens within the time of the cycle of the AC... so the process must be exact; that is every time voltage changes, a good vortex is formed.  But it's not like I can put current into the side of a resistor?  Make snaking banks like viktor schauberger's log flume.... a lot like a bobsled where you spend most time in the corners... if there's water in it, there's more mass keeping logs from the side... and when he changes the water that flowed it was from the side instead of from the end....

[d3x0r]

Quit posting bollox on this site and do the experiment.
No cap. Nothing else.

Okay but the point is ; where are you going with that?


In practice yes; do I get a core?  do I get to have a switch?  Well I guess I can just tap the end of the battery with a lead... Does it have to remain lit long enough to be perceived or can I show an instance of where it should have lit?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQL6_pNu58 (processing, but it's 30 seconds or smoething)

[d3x0r]

Just to add to the previous concept.  Current limiting on the battery is not a problem if the coil has enough inductance.  If you allow a third connection to the coil (Autotransformer), then the neon can be used as a switch, increasing the output drastically.  The circuit could even be made to oscillate, increasing the neon output to the "Burnout" point.  Without that, the best you could hope for would be a flash as the battery drain limit WOULD determine the minimum inductance, and hence the required charge time.

Old style ignition circuits (1920's and the start of 30's) used a single coil to produce the spark for gasoline engines.  Of course there was anywhere from 4 to 10 Amps required, but that is only because of the minimum cycle time req'd.  A 1.5 volt battery could do the same thing, as long as you didn't need more than 1 fire per minute or so.  (I would need to do some math to give an exact minimum charge time for a fully charged AA cell, and this charge time would be good for 1 to 2 charges, and then would increase as the cell died.  Even saying that is a guess.  It might work 20-30 times.  Best way to find out would be a test.)

I hope this provides some food for thought.

only if you add inductance by adding a core.  the wire mechanism itself will exceed current capacity of the AA.  No matter how many turns I used (increased inductance) it wouldn't light.