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Overunity Machines Forum



ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Dave45

Im going to have to build another WFC.


Dave45

Complementary transistors


Bob Smith

The convergence is happening (I hope). ;D ;D ;D

Bob Smith

Counsel
I understood a little while ago when you made the statement of using sever thousand horsepower put into a condenser, you could take out of the condenser a million horsepower. I wondered if you got the same condition with this machine.
Tesla
Yes; I charged the condenser with 40,000 volts. When it was charged full, I discharged it suddenly, through a short circuit which gave me a very rapid rate of oscillation. Let us suppose that I had stored in the condenser 10 watts. Then, for such a wave there is a flux of energy of (4 x 10^4)^2, and this is multiplied by the frequency of 100,000. You see, it may go into thousands or millions of horsepower.
Counsel
What I wanted to get at was, did that depend upon the suddenness of the discharge?
Tesla
Yes. It is merely the electrical analogue of a pile driver or a hammer. You accumulate energy through a long distance and then you deliver it with a tremendous suddenness. The distance through which the mass moves is small--the pressure immense.
Source: Leland Anderson, NT on His Work With Alternating Currents, p. 68.

gyulasun

Hi Bob,

I am aware of the quote you refer to above. I think you understand what does the Tesla example of storing 10W in the capacitor i.e. saying it more precisely: storing 10 Joule energy in the capacitor mean?
OF course it means you can take out 10W power in 1 second or if you prefer, you can take out 100W power in 0.1 second or 1000W in 0.01 second and so on. The big question is that how the hugh power available for a fraction of time could be utilized, how its sudden effect could be exploited to "gain" extra energy?  This is the question.

Tesla seemed to give an answer for that question: discharge the cap very quickly into a small inductance coil which magnetically connected to a high inductance coil. However, he received extreme high voltages on the top end of his Tesla coil and obviously the coil stored huge amounts of circulating VAR power inside it.
Now how you could utilize this "big" power: if you load the coil in any way i.e. you match a load to it, you transform 'loss' i.e. the load into the coil and if somebody thinks that still there remains more energy in the coil than what was needed to charge up the capacitor at the start, then he or she has to prove it... to believe it.  It is known Tesla used HV generators in a continuous fashion to charge up the capacitors what he then suddenly discharged into the low inductance primary of the Tesla coil setup.

Still, if we are to believe that we can receive more energy from such process, then we have to prove it.  Maybe Tito managed it to prove for himself, he keeps silence on the how to...

You have referred to John Myatt: he seems to utilize the hugh HV for driving water fuel cell: i.e. he receives other energy type in the form of hydrogen and oxigen) in the end process what he utilizes.  I do not know if he gets more energy output in the end than the input was?

Returning to Igor's videos, what I wrote and included his schematic yesterday with some modification: maybe it is one step towards the idea of adding the bemf to the input but thinking it over now it seems to be limited in itself: it has but one stage so the capacitor voltage bounds to stay at a steady average voltage level (which may be a bit higher than the battery voltage but cannot go higher and higher). So several stages should be used and their output are gradually to be added up.
What John Myatt showed in his video on the "Tesla regenerative effect" I do not get it: he seems to add up two output voltages from two LC circuits on the oscilloscope display and the amplitudes of two frequencies gradually increase? What makes them increase I wonder? (this is the Myatt video you referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK7mYIpjkM )

Rgds,  Gyula