ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Dave45]

Iv been thinking alot about using a battery as a power source, is the objective really about an alternate electron source or is it about not letting electrons balance out the battery.
In a battery we have a surplus of electrons on the neg pole and a deficit on the pos, as electrons flow from neg to pos we get current from pos to neg but when the charge in the battery is balanced its over, so even if we are pulling electrons from the ground we are still balancing the charge in the battery.

[Dave45]

Lets say I ground the battery build a circuit and use earth ground as an electron source, Im still balancing out the battery, Im still filling the pos side of the battery with electrons.

[allcanadian]

@Dave45

In a battery we have a surplus of electrons on the neg pole and a deficit on the
pos, as electrons flow from neg to pos we get current from pos to neg but when
the charge in the battery is balanced its over, so even if we are pulling
electrons from the ground we are still balancing the charge in the battery.

A better model may be more electrons (negative terminal) less electrons (positive terminal) the electrons moving from negative(more) to positive(less). We should remember only the Free Electrons(-) are mobile thus we know the Protons(+) are not actually moving anywhere and are bound to the conductor material. As well if the system is closed then we know the number of electrons is constant within it therefore the energy in the system is dependent on where the electrons are, electron density, and how many are there.
Think of a system completely full of air with the higher density/pressure air(-) flowing through a conduit to the lower density/pressure air(+) eventually balancing the pressure. We see the amount of air is constant within the system therefore the energy in the system is dependent on the difference in pressure between the highest point(-) and the lowest point(+). I found nothing made sense until I discarded the conventional flow notation and started using electron flow notation exclusively...it works.

Here is by far the best explanation you will find on the net.
http://amasci.com/miscon/whatis.html

AC

[Dave45]

Hey AC I couldnt agree more but maybe you should look at the model closer, electrons are expressed in blue current in red.
The model shows electrons moving from neg to pos and current moving from pos to neg.
The best of my understanding is is that current is a byproduct of electron flow and does not actually come from the battery.

[Dave45]

I think folks would actually benefit by looking at the battery connected to the circuit and realizing electron flow powers the circuit.
A boost converter raises the potential in a circuit but actually balances the battery faster whereas the buck converter recycles the electron.
The buck converter is more akin to a spinning flywheel but the potential (voltage) relaxes during the off cycle.