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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Magluvin

Well thats a great Christian attitude you have there Tito. And it shows.  ;)

Have you ever considered that maybe it is YOUR grammar, or the way YOU convey your thoughts, and that this may be why most ANYBODY doesnt get what you are saying? HMMM?

Mags

wattsup

First of all my critique of the water tanks design was only a critique in the way it was shown in the drawings. I never tried to accuse anyone of trying to divert the thread, etc.

Guys, you should try and exercise some restraint in how and what you post because I feel you guys post on a whim of momentary inspiration. Think hard on what you are trying to say. There was no need to denigrate Tito for bringing up an idea. An idea is only that. An idea.

So here you go at my crack at the best possible method to work out his water tank system. First of all, I get paid big bucks to work out water problems. That is my profession.

The top tank has a second tank upside down with the top exiting into a laminar flow tube that is connected to three pipe, one is wider then the next but all have valves on them V1, V2 and V3. During tests only one of the valves will be used to find the right riser tube diameter and valve opening required to make the water loop.

On the top tank you have a bottom flexible tube (T4) that goes up then down to an low adjustment valve (V4). The flexible upcurve of T4 can be set at a variable height over the exit level to adjust for the maximum head available for emptying the top tank into the bottom tank via the V4 final adjustment.

With such a set-up you would be able to tinker with all the variables to find the best optimal setting to make the water flow upwards from the bottom tank, into the top tank and back down again.

Now, if it works or not is always up for debate, but at least with such a set-up, you have a pretty nice toy to play around with and LEARN. That's why we are here, RIGHT? We're not here to cut each other up into pieces. The world has already mastered that one.

wattsup

Qwert

Quote from: wattsup on February 12, 2011, 02:14:59 PM
Now, if it works or not is always up for debate, but at least with such a set-up, you have a pretty nice toy to play around with and LEARN. That's why we are here, RIGHT? We're not here to cut each other up into pieces. The world has already mastered that one.

wattsup
You don't need to be an engineer to see this system will not work. If one doesn't see that, he (she) must start the basic education in an elementary school.
This system can work only if the bottom tank is hermetically closed, then heated up.

wattsup

Quote from: Qwert on February 12, 2011, 06:36:55 PM
You don't have to be an engineer to see this system will not work. If one doesn't see that, he (she) must start the basic education in an elementary school.
This system can work only if the bottom tank is hermetically closed, then heated up.

@Qwert

No need to get overly my man.

This is only a mind exercise. The only reason I went this far is because there is a small small window of opportunity in this design that could work if the right mix of top tank height, top inverse tank size and riser tube diameters are just right, this could produce an erratic but functional loop. It has to do with the suction developed in the inverted tank versus the head force available in the top tank that want to empty out into the bottom tank, where the inverted tank is set deep enough into the top tank to allow or create a generous but controlled suction. The top tank would have to be on a lift to vary its height versus the lower tank to obtain the right head range, otherwise regardless of the other variables, this would never have a chance of working. If anyone every tries this, make sure the top tank is adjustable in height compared to the bottom tank to find the right level. There will be a height that will move the flow in the direction of those arrows. If this does not work, it will be the closest you could get before thinking of adding anything else.

Of course don't expect it to turn a turbine generator or anything of that sort. But the mind exercise is rather enjoyable and a good change from the coil pulsing devices I usually do. I just wanted to give Tito's idea a fair shake and it was enjoyable.

wattsup

fritznien

Quote from: wattsup on February 12, 2011, 10:08:48 PM
@Qwert

No need to get overly my man.

This is only a mind exercise. The only reason I went this far is because there is a small small window of opportunity in this design that could work if the right mix of top tank height, top inverse tank size and riser tube diameters are just right, this could produce an erratic but functional loop. It has to do with the suction developed in the inverted tank versus the head force available in the top tank that want to empty out into the bottom tank, where the inverted tank is set deep enough into the top tank to allow or create a generous but controlled suction. The top tank would have to be on a lift to vary its height versus the lower tank to obtain the right head range, otherwise regardless of the other variables, this would never have a chance of working. If anyone every tries this, make sure the top tank is adjustable in height compared to the bottom tank to find the right level. There will be a height that will move the flow in the direction of those arrows. If this does not work, it will be the closest you could get before thinking of adding anything else.

Of course don't expect it to turn a turbine generator or anything of that sort. But the mind exercise is rather enjoyable and a good change from the coil pulsing devices I usually do. I just wanted to give Tito's idea a fair shake and it was enjoyable.

wattsup
the only way to get the fluid to flow into the top tank is to lower the fluid level in the top tank below the level of the bottom tank.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphon
the outlet is always below the inlet
diameter has nothing to do with it.
your mind exercise lacks basic information.
get yourself hoses buckets etc and try it out for your self.
fritznien