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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Qwert

Here is the EDITABLE document I promised earlier, "The Super Tube" - chapter derived from the book "Quest for Zero Point Energy" by Moray B. King

Bob Smith

 
I have a question:  Supposing you have --
2 perpendicular coils:
- a parallel-wound bifilar coil, coiled in a ring (like the TPU) with a cap across one end (i.e., joining two parallel ends);
- a similar parallel bifilar coil with cap across one end (as above) wound perpendicular to the ring in a short (say 1 inch wide) section.

Suppose you pulse the larger winding - we should get a ringing, then the perpendicular winding with cap will also ring, will it not?

How do we help the ringing continue?
Does the answer lie in a Lenzless arrangement?
Does the answer lie in a continuous small pulse involving a 555 timer chip or JT type setup using a transistor?

Do we perhaps need a third coil to pick up the ringing in the first two, perhaps with its own parallel-charged caps discharging in series?

So many questions. Work is crazy right now and I can't get near my bench, so for now, I'll try to reason this out and ask questions.
Bob

Magluvin

Quote from: Bob Smith on April 11, 2013, 10:24:47 PM



How do we help the ringing continue?
Does the answer lie in a Lenzless arrangement?
Does the answer lie in a continuous small pulse involving a 555 timer chip or JT type setup using a transistor?



Exactly. How do we take energy from the ring without killing it. That would be key.

Or even better than lenzless, an arrangement that is one step further and once the ring has begun it builds upon itself and we take from it once it gets large enough. That would be key also.'

Either way would work. The self building config would be maybe a bit dangerous if safety measures are not put into place and of quality build and components. And if there is such a beast, would it not possibly start ringing and building by itself if excited just a lil bit?  :o ;)   Dunno, but it would be incredible to experience. ;D

I have tried a lot of things and havnt been able to do either. Yet.

There must be a combination of coils whether they be bifi or not that can get us to this result.

Back when Romero was running the Muller gen, one of the things I always wondered about his coils, was whether they were bifi or not.He did say that capacitance needed to be increased in the coil, where bifi seems like the only solution. 

He supposedly used 7 strand litz. I had thoughts that he actually divided the individual strands and used half for 1 winding of the bifi and the others for the other winding, of which would be 3 strands and 4 strands if it were 7 strand litz. He said it was a tremendous amount of work in tuning the coils. If one was to do this, you would have to separate the strands at each end, clean of the enamel of each strand end, identify each strand end to end, then measure the capacitances between mixes of different strand combinations the get equal tuning for each coil bobbin.

Picture the cross sectional view of 7 strand litz. (I would get an even strand no. if available) Lets just imagine 1 center strand and 6 outer. If we chose every other outer strand to be one winding combo, there should be more capacitance than if we just had 3 adjacent to each other on one side and the other 3, adjacent to each other to have less if one measured the 2 windings for capacitance.  Then just add the middle one to either of the windings, just because it is there.  ;D

This was the only solution I could come up with that might have taken so long to tune, and seems realistic in theory. The capacitance by doing it with the individual strands will be way more than just using 2 litz wires wound together to make a bifi.  And maybe thats why others couldnt get the same results because they could not accumulate enough capacitance to get the coils to ring at the low freq that Romero had gotten.  ;)

Lol, I tried to achieve lenzless effects with a large many turn coil, not bifi, and instead of getting speedup, I got rpm lock, where once reached, more and more power did not break the lock. So possibly a bifi would act differently. And my coil was way big where capacitance would be very low in comparison to a Romero coil size in bifi, but my freq of operation was much lower also due to the high inductance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCF7uQzwzM


Mags


Magluvin

Quote from: Magluvin on April 11, 2013, 11:37:52 PM
  Then just add the middle one to either of the windings, just because it is there.  ;D



Hmmm, maybe 6 on the outside, 3 for 1 winding, 3 for the other, and the middle one, no. 7, maybe its shorted. :o Just thought of that while rereading my post.

Mags

forest

Mags, Bob you are right...somewhere like 2 steps behind ou  :P I'm one step behind due to lack of electronic knowledge...  >:( I wish Mr Aviso would help me  :-[ Ring a bell twice  ::)
btw  do you think that al those ears are loading all audio amplifiers during concert ???