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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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forest

Quote from: Jeg on May 02, 2014, 06:47:05 AM
Guys
Tito have said once something that really needs some consideration.

'Charging capacitors in series and discharging in parallel.'

So, lets assume that we have 16 capacitors in series of 1μF each. Total capacity in series is 62.5nF. If we discharge the first one in the raw what will be the output energy from this cap? Will this correspond to an energy stored in a 1 microfarad cap? Because if this is the case, then we can charge a raw of some capacitors in series really quickly (very small capacitance), and by discharging each one separately we are going to rock.  :)   


ps. Now that i think it more clearly, the voltage of each one in the raw will be the 1/16th. So energy from each capacitor will be lower than i was thinking. E=0.5 C Vsquare. So even charging them in series or in parallel the energy stored is the same. But still there is a big difference in charging time. Charging them in series, can be done much faster than the other way, and so the discharging will be in a more fast way. Do i miss something?


Well, I'm not expert but there is much more to consider. For example ESR in parallel configuration is probably much less. Personally I would rather try to charge them in parallel then reconnect in series to get high voltage and then discharge.
Have you ever tried to discharge 16V electrolytic capacitor compared to 400V one ? (don't try that at home, be careful).
Definately what we need is higher voltage. Check how many patents Tesla had for high voltage switching controller. Today we still have no good device for such purpose...

Dave45

The circuit I posted could be built using igbt's or mosfets pulsed in sequence,

I dont really understand how it can be done any other way, it takes a capacitor time to charge, look at the flash of a camera, it takes time to charge a cap.

QuoteCharging capacitors in series and discharging in parallel

can someone put this into a schematic, not complete just showing switches like in my pic would be fine.

Dave45

If a toroid were wound bifilar and dc current were ran through one winding to the load and the other winding were pulsed would we still get bemf.
I need to fix my scope or buy another one, its like shooting in the dark without one.
Im raising three grandchildren so my time has really been limited here lately.

Marsing

Quote from: Dave45 on May 02, 2014, 09:03:38 AM
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can someone put this into a schematic, not complete just showing switches like in my pic would be fine.

Patent Application US20080030165 7th February 2008 Inventor: Bozidar Lisac
METHOD AND DEVICE FOR SUPPLYING A LOAD WITH ELECTRIC ENERGY RECOVERY.

http://www.google.com/patents/US20080030165



Bob Smith

Quote from: Dave45 on May 02, 2014, 09:14:41 AM
If a toroid were wound bifilar and dc current were ran through one winding to the load and the other winding were pulsed would we still get bemf.
I need to fix my scope or buy another one, its like shooting in the dark without one.
Im raising three grandchildren so my time has really been limited here lately.
Interesting thought. Would the straight DC winding act like a secondary and also pick up the inductive kickback from the pulsed DC winding? Hope your scope hunting works out - I can see how you'd need one for this.
B