ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Bob Smith]

Just a quick thought - what is the purpose of Tito's zener diode? At first, I thought it was to restrain excess voltage. But Synchro said something earlier on in this thread about the zener's breakdown/avalanche mode allowing in radiant energy. What if you had a few zeners in series and hit them with a voltage that exceeded its breakdown threshold... would the zener act as a degenerate semiconductor?  I'll see if I can find more about it later. Back to work.
Bob

[Cadman]

Guys
Tito have said once something that really needs some consideration.

'Charging capacitors in series and discharging in parallel.'

Actually I think it's the other way around.

Tito was trying to point you to some specific Tesla patents, some of which charge caps in multiple and discharge in series
577670
568176
568180
583953
Understand what it is that makes these devices work, and not so much the construction details.
Study the patent text as well as look at the circuits. 577670 actually uses the word "kick" and 568180 uses the phrase "make and break". They make use of something called electrical inertia. Electrical inertia is what enabled Tesla to extract such enormous horse power from devices. Electrical publications from the early 1900s are extremely interesting. Also look at Tesla patents 568177 and 609250.

You know, no one says you absolutely must use the oscillations to shoot gigantic sparks into the air.

[gyulasun]

sequential firing
not sure how this would work
I was just thinking about caps charging over time

Hi Dave,

In your sequential firing schematic proposal, each capacitor is charged up from the battery and discharged by the left hand side coil.  This setup takes energy from the battery in any and each capacitor charge-up sequence.
I think Tito meant using several (perhaps separate) coils besides the capacitors and say the first coil is switched onto a battery, then after the switch-off the collapsing field in it is routed to a capacitor and then this capacitor as a next step in the sequence is discharged onto a second coil by a second switch (Zener diode perhaps comes in here not to let the cap fully discharge). Now the collapsing field of the second coil is routed to a second capacitor and so on, repeating the cap-switch-coil chain several times. While this setup may achieve the "avalanche chain effect" Tito referred to from Tesla's comparison to get an avalanche from a snowball, conventional science says here that you cannot receive more energy from the collapsing fields than what was fed into the coils... but one has to test this in the chain setup (if that is what Tito meant), perhaps there is something in it, (from the 2nd stage in the chain and onwards, the capacitors (and coils) are charged up from the first input current pulse energy switched onto the 1st coil and then always from the collapsing fields energy of the previous coil in the chain)  This means that from a single input pulse you (seemingly) get several charged caps and coils.

Regarding your question: "Charging capacitors in series and discharging in parallel, can someone put this into a schematic, not complete just showing switches like in my pic would be fine."

Naudin showed such a (complete) schematic with 3 MOSFETs, he connected two 22,000uF caps in parallel and then in series, the charge up for the caps was in parallel from a 8.4V battery via a Lego motor and the discharge was done in series, also via the Lego motor back to the 8.4V battery to attempt to recharge it. See this link:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/scalchrg.htm   
MOSFET switches M4 and M5 are controlled together ON or OFF and MOSFET M6 is controlled oppositely, OFF and ON with respect to M4 and M5. When M4 and M5 are ON (and M6 is OFF) the two 22,000uF is connected in parallel (Charge phase) and then M4 and M5 are OFF and M6 is ON so the two caps are connected in series (Discharge phase).

Gyula

[Cadman]

Electricity at High Pressures and Frequencies by Henry L. Transtrom, 1913

Chapter 13: High frequency currents.
Electric inertia.

What happens when you discharge a condenser into a coil.

[Jeg]

Electricity at High Pressures and Frequencies by Henry L. Transtrom, 1913

Chapter 13: High frequency currents.
Electric inertia.

What happens when you discharge a condenser into a coil.

Thanks Cadman for the info.

In relation with the caps series or in parallel, they store the same energy in both ways and nothing more unfortunately.